How to Install a Standalone Battery Backup System: Installing Batteries without Solar Panels

Introduction:

In an era where energy independence and home resilience are more important than ever, battery backup systems have emerged as a crucial component of modern home infrastructure. While these systems are commonly associated with solar panel setups, it’s entirely possible—and increasingly common—to install batteries without solar panels. This comprehensive guide will walk you through the reasons for installing a standalone battery system, the benefits it offers, and the steps to ensure a successful installation.

Key Takeaway Points:

  • Understanding the functionality and benefits of battery backup systems
  • Assessing your home’s energy needs to determine the appropriate battery size
  • Navigating the selection of battery types and brands
  • The importance of choosing the right location for installation
  • Step-by-step instructions on installing a battery backup system
  • Maintenance tips to ensure the longevity and efficiency of your system
  • Insights into the future of battery technology and home energy storage

Why Consider a Battery Backup Without Solar Panels?

Battery backup systems provide a host of benefits, from emergency power during outages to reduced reliance on the grid during peak hours. For homes without solar panels, batteries can be charged during off-peak times when electricity rates are lower and discharged during peak times to save on energy costs.

Assessing Your Energy Needs

Before diving into installation, it’s crucial to assess your energy needs. This assessment will help you determine the size and number of batteries required to power essential appliances and systems during an outage or to offset peak energy costs.

Choosing the Right Battery for Your Home

There are several types of batteries to consider, including lead-acid, lithium-ion, and saltwater. Each type has its pros and cons in terms of cost, capacity, lifespan, and maintenance. Your choice will depend on your specific needs, budget, and preferences.

Selecting the Ideal Location

The location of your battery installation affects its performance and safety. Batteries should be installed in a cool, dry place with stable temperatures to optimize their efficiency and lifespan. It’s also important to comply with local building codes and regulations.

Installation Steps:

  1. Safety First: Always start with safety precautions. Turn off the main power supply before beginning the installation.
  2. Mounting the Battery: Secure the battery in your chosen location, ensuring it’s stable and level.
  3. Wiring: Connect the battery to your home’s electrical system, following the manufacturer’s instructions and electrical codes.
  4. Charging System: Set up the charging system to ensure your battery can be charged from the grid.
  5. Testing: Once everything is connected, test the system to ensure it’s functioning correctly.

Maintaining Your Battery System

Regular maintenance is key to the performance of your battery backup system. This includes monitoring the charge levels, checking for corrosion, and keeping the batteries clean and dust-free.

The Future of Battery Technology

Battery technology is rapidly advancing, with new developments promising higher capacities, faster charging times, and longer lifespans. Keeping an eye on these trends can help you make informed decisions about upgrades and replacement

Exploring Home and Commercial Energy Storage Solutions

The landscape of energy storage is transforming rapidly, offering innovative solutions for both home and commercial applications. As the world moves towards a more sustainable and resilient energy future, understanding the nuances of energy storage becomes paramount. This blog post delves into the world of energy storage, exploring the options, benefits, and considerations for implementing these systems in various settings.

  • Energy storage systems are pivotal for enhancing energy independence and managing costs.
  • Home energy storage systems are becoming more affordable and accessible.
  • Commercial energy storage solutions can significantly reduce operational expenses.
  • The integration of renewable energy sources with storage systems is on the rise.
  • Innovations in technology are making energy storage more efficient and reliable.

The Importance of Energy Storage

Energy storage systems are crucial for balancing supply and demand, providing backup power, and enhancing the efficiency of the energy grid. They allow for the storage of excess energy generated during low-demand periods to be used during peak times or outages.

Home Energy Storage: A Step Towards Self-Sufficiency

Home energy storage systems, typically paired with solar panels, have seen a surge in popularity. They empower homeowners to store surplus solar energy, reduce reliance on the grid, and provide a safeguard against power outages.

Commercial Energy Storage: Maximizing Operational Efficiency

For businesses, energy storage is a game-changer. It enables peak shaving, demand charge reduction, and improved power quality, leading to significant savings on energy bills and increased operational resilience.

Types of Energy Storage Systems

There are several types of energy storage systems, each with unique characteristics and suitable applications. This section would explore the most common types, including lithium-ion batteries, flow batteries, and thermal storage.

For businesses, energy storage is a game-changer. It enables peak shaving, demand charge reduction, and improved power quality, leading to significant savings on energy bills and increased operational resilience.

Choosing the Right System for Your Needs

Selecting the right energy storage system involves understanding your energy usage patterns, financial goals, and space constraints. This section would provide guidance on making the best choice for both home and commercial users.

Installation and Maintenance

Proper installation and maintenance are vital for the safety and longevity of energy storage systems. This part of the blog would offer advice on installation best practices and routine maintenance checks.

Financial Incentives and Rebates

Government incentives and rebates can significantly offset the cost of energy storage systems. This section would outline current incentives available for both homeowners and businesses.

The Role of Energy Storage in Renewable Integration

Energy storage is integral to the widespread adoption of renewable energy. It addresses the intermittency issues associated with solar and wind power, making renewable energy more reliable and predictable.

Innovations in Energy Storage

The field of energy storage is ripe with innovation, from advancements in battery chemistry to the development of software for smarter energy management. This section would highlight the latest breakthroughs and what they mean for the future of energy storage.

The evolution of energy storage technologies is not just a trend but a critical component of the global shift towards sustainable energy practices. With the potential to revolutionize how we produce, consume, and think about energy, storage systems are more than just a backup plan—they are a proactive step towards a greener, more efficient future.

Energy storage stands at the forefront of the energy revolution, offering solutions that promise a more sustainable and cost-effective future. Whether for home or commercial use, the benefits of adopting energy storage are clear: greater control over energy use, improved financial savings, and a reduced carbon footprint. As technology advances, the potential for energy storage only grows, making it an exciting time for consumers and businesses ready to embrace the future of energy.

Hot Take:

As the demand for energy storage solutions grows, the role of standalone battery systems in homes is set to expand. These systems not only offer a hedge against power outages but also provide a way to manage energy costs effectively. With the right setup, homeowners can enjoy a new level of energy autonomy.

Conclusion:

Installing a battery backup system without solar panels is a smart move for any homeowner looking to increase their energy security and manage electricity costs. By following this guide, you can ensure that your home is equipped with a reliable, efficient energy storage solution. As battery technology continues to evolve, the potential for home energy independence becomes more accessible and more compelling than ever.

0:11has just stopped just the time of year that really electricians want to be heading onto the roof to fit solar

0:17panels little bit of moss little bit of slip you pick up the old solar panel it’s bit like a sail could send you

0:22anywhere and you’re thinking to yourself This is an opportunity that I’m not interested in so is there an alternative

0:28well could there be an electric s always tell us they they don’t like it when other people do their jobs you know they

0:34don’t like you know plumbers doing a bit of electric so why are we on roofs doing roofers that’s roofers territory so

0:40should we even bother no and is it more economical to take that out of the equation when you think of the expense

0:47of the scaffold Tower the number of hours unskilled roofers on top of there trying to wrestle away with a bit of

0:53rail in order to support those obviously keeping the building nice and dry oh how many how many headaches at night you’re

0:59going to have laying there thinking was that roof watertight when I left it when the customer is only really concerned

1:05with cheaper electricity yeah and that’s what we’re going to look at tonight should we just be fitting batteries and

1:11not bothering with a hassle of solar panels well we’ve got some experts along to help us we’ve got the team from

1:17sunsync and back again we’ve got Griff Thomas from Gtech who usually upsets

1:23somebody and stick around as well cuz you could win a prize because tonight we’re cashing in the Copper from our

1:29green cable bin you can’t win the cash you might win a set of wo

1:34probes so which one in the team is he going to upset this time because it was mildly me last time with Griff well it

1:40was the viewers as well Gary talk to social media making videos putting DC isolators in fitting meters things like

1:47that but we’re not going on there tonight we’re not no we’re talking about is it more economical maybe or should

1:52the solution be installing batteries but forgetting those solar panels when I’ve been on that adventur so I can’t believe

1:58we’re having this stream exactly and we have got those two treats as we mentioned so yes we have got the challenge wall coming up where you can

2:04win but you can also win by getting an early gambling an early gambling we have because obviously we have got some

2:09visitors from Liverpool joining us today so we thought we’d best get rid of all the loose copper and things that can be

2:15easily removed from the building and put in the back of a car and take into your local scrapyard so we called in green

2:20cable to cash in our our wheelie bin we did and talking to the people in The

2:26Green Room as you’ve now insulted one and we’ve worried about the other one insulting us or something well let’s bring in the the camera to see who I

2:31guest are maybe they give us a cheeky Little Wave you know it’s National don’t bring your hair to work day today so there we go so Lee’s in the middle okay

2:38so and Lee is our friend from Liverpool and I’m sure he’s going to get a little bit of banter on the way through as we do this now you’ve already been given

2:43your first golden opportunity to get in the comments and by getting in the comments you can get in the register so

2:48first of all we want to know how much money we cashed in today when we actually got that rid of our green cable

2:54bin that would be great and also we love your comments if you’re watching this and you’re not watching it live on Facebook or on YouTube we like the fact

3:01that it can drive further Stream So other things and other things that we can talk about moving forward and hence

3:07we’ve got this one on the back of the one when we had Griffin the first time round as well yes we have yes so get those entries in in pounds and Pence

3:13that’s what we want to know pounds and Pence just Richard Brook was an early 95 you need to put the pence in as well

3:20okay so just round that number round yeah okay and also we’d like to thank the wonderful people allow us to comeThanks to our sponsors

3:25live onto Facebook and YouTube every two weeks we’d like to thank the great people at the SEO group that bring us

3:30the brand such ASO liting and bgyn EV we’d like to thank our good friends that were on the show last time luden palaz

3:37and I think uh I think we could say the Giovani Giovani was really pleased with

3:42his stream because he even sent out the bit when he CED down the tool from above and we’ve got another Rick’s to time this evening and the wonderful people at

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3:55the electrical industry as well some good some good prices coming in there clear I think there’s some customers

4:01clearly clearly there’s some people who filled up some wheelie bins with C in the past and they’ve got an idea now they yeah I could imagine what full B

4:07and it was a full bin as well that we sent it in yeah okay so it was a delicious we’ve got a nice treat and that’s uh that’s going to be Joe’s

4:12segment tonight isn’t it we got some brilliant segments we’ve got the two Joe’s okay we’ve got also we’ve got Griff and we’re going to hear from Sun

4:19sink’s CEO as well Keith Keith GF is on yes he is should be really good couldn’t

4:24be here in person it turn up in spirit batteries not solar that seems counterintuitive to me so this is going

4:31to be a tough one for me this evening having got my solar panels installed and a battery you’re probably going to

4:36unpick this and suggest maybe that I’ve uh well it is well not me I think we best bring our guests cuz they’re the

4:42experts in this are the better be otherwise we’ll be in a world of trouble in the world of trouble so it is myIntroducing tonights’ guests

4:47pleasure to introduce Griff Thomas a return guest to the show James Leiden and Lee Dobson from Sun great

4:57come cheers oh obviously CU we we’ve got an extra guest we’ve had to bring out the emergency chair so Griff’s taking on

5:03the emergency chair on the end there we did that before we’ve done that before yes you’re sitting on a rooll of PV

5:09Ultra there say I’m I’m sitting on it I’m taking it home all right okay there you go have you not got any I might have

5:15a little bit all right don’t tell donc C oh Lads of prices coming in for that for that cable

5:22bin really interesting thank you very much for joining us so yeah you’re from sunn and we’re obviously going to get into all that but let’s first of all

5:27shall we start with you James let’s have a little little bit about yourself in about 60 seconds fantastic thanks for

5:32having us um good evening I’m James Leiden I’m the uh Northern sales manager

5:38for sunsync in the UK um so I look after um whether it’s our independent

5:43Distributors our national distributors in the new in the UK whether that’s training um visiting clients so yeah

5:51very passionate about Renewables and glad to be here okay so it must be the world’s most difficult job in this

5:56current climate where Energy prices are soaring and you’re trying to sell a renewable source of energy into a

6:02property or a business that can save the money you must be really struggling to sell stuff I would imagine can you it’s

6:08enough to make you lose your hair yeah I would imagine it is yeah imagine those bonuses every month Come Sailing In Lee

6:14so tell us about yourself in 60 seconds yeah so I’m Lee and I’m the UK technical lead um I’m here to try and support this

6:20basically our technical staff that we’ve got in the UK and all the installers on site um so everyone who’s got a problem

6:27calls in I try try and assist them there’s probably a lot of calls at the moment we’re relatively new over the last few years in the UK uh but it is

6:34it’s getting there and we’re we’re growing as we go okay all right so technical you got the easier the two

6:39jobs there nothing technical in there was there for you James the more work I do the more work Le okay okay well

6:46hopefully not because hopefully the system my system hasn’t caused me any issues at all causing issues brings me

6:52to you Griff yes after last time surprised you’re back for a second run in it but we’re grateful to have you here but can you tell us again in 60

6:58seconds all about yourself yeah so my name is Griff Thomas and I’m managing director of Gtech trading limited we

7:04deliver training all over the UK predominantly on Renewables um I spend a lot of time also hunting out Rogue DC

7:12isolators trying to remove them from installations after the last uh gig that

7:17we did together um and I also contribute to a lot of the national standards as well so working alongside the guys at

7:23the I to write the codes of practice and various other documents around the the renewable and emerging Technologies

7:29yeah and we’re in safe hands we know that from last time and yes we did have the the road DC isolators that don’t need to be installed along with kilowatt

7:35hour meters and all the rest I’m sure there’s some content coming our way shortly as another that there is well we’ll be looking at your plant room Gary

7:42toilet and Bassin yes yes yes yes I’m sure I’m going to get another paston as we go through this winning you’ve even

7:47taken to ringing me up and messaging me with the things I should or shouldn’t have absolutely every time I see those

7:52clips of your plant room I’m something there going there’s another one you didn’t I’ve solved the end cap on the

7:57trunk in now so that’s been in yes so we’re right and we’ve got a Paul rard coming in your shoely that was that

8:04friendly local installer Paul rard yeah yeah it’s quite local to a to be fair shoes shoes let’s have them bring them

8:10in them so look at those hand mirrors look at them bad boys polished this morning lift it up let’s look look at

8:16that hey not got a big shoe though no no no no so people with the little shoes

8:22yeah little feet that’s what they say okay well it is time obviously to choose

8:27uh well to see if our guest are actually any good on the tools so background you didn’t say your background electricalElectricians’ Challenge – Lee vs James

8:33background yeah so I’ve got an electrical engineering background yeah uh unfortunately got a degree in

8:38electrical engineering but sadly not been on the tools so uh never been on the tools no so anything further on from

8:44this video please take a bit of DIY at home I’m just going to say no until the

8:51video okay yeah Liverpool area have you ever managed to get a car to work that didn’t have a set of keys no okay James

8:58same question to yourself um no no on the tools experience bar basic DIY uh

9:05and the closest I personally get to electronics is plugging my laptop in um so that is my explanation for I imagine

9:12what you’re about to see on my uh challenge well it’s obviously time for the uh time for the viewers to join in

9:18so do we think have our guests Hoodwinked us it is time to get your times in you have to do two things tonight cuz we’ve got two guests you

9:24have to say who do you think will be the fastest will it be James or will it be Lee and the time you think they will

9:31complete the challenge in so you want if it’s Lee you want Lee 17 hours 57

9:37minutes or if it’s James 3 months and two days yeah or have we just Hoodwink

9:43to people Gary well I think I’m haven’t seen it so I’ve only got from what they’re going on I think this could be a close one I think there’s more Pride at

9:50stake here maybe than time I would suggest the plaster on my finger might give away uh my uh lack of uh electrical

9:59wiring skills also did you injur it in race one two or three uh yeah it was it was emotional so when when was the

10:06injury occurred race one two or three oh so you’re carrying an injury for two of them all right okay well the lady with

10:13one hand never moaned so your cut finger doesn’t watch with us at all we got wi

10:18there so we don’t know who’s going to be at first yeah you’ve got some plenty of regular people and Joel eagan’s on there he’s watching you he was supposed to be

10:24here as well he cried off with a with a with a with a little cold or something cold yeah so stop the Jolie Jolie Jolie

10:35we couldn’t do that this time could we cuz he wasn’t in right are we going to bang it on then let’s go for it it let’s

10:40go for it who’s up first then so uh here we go come on we haven’t seen this no we haven’t oh Le up first oh he’s used to

10:47getting inside enclosures very quickly I would imagine coming from the Liverpool area he can have uh screws out of that

10:53as quick as you get have four tires off a Cortina okay so here we go front off on your Edge there go

11:01yes we’re gone there good start radio frequency from that looks lumpy at the top okay

11:07here we go full set that was good impressive hang on a second hang on I’m rethinking fish wires like that to get

11:14inside cars normally you could just get the window down for if you us better to hook the uh the door catch open allegedly

11:22yeah okay oh we’re down the bottom now we’re up and down here here we go so using the um wo stripping tools it

11:28always suggests whiff of somebody hasn’t got a clue if they’re borrowing the tools from us okay here we go something

11:33no no no he’s got them up without it so uh yeah good got the old uh wedding Pros

11:40there with the old one knee so will you get the colors around the right way this is a good start this you’re under pressure here James you know that going

11:46to be under pressure very aware of that just remember if it looks L usually is yeah this looks good obviously I would

11:53imagine a bit of quality editing going on here just been spread up there a little bit we have we have yeah we doy

11:58try to keep the shot under two hours okay going to Earth the B boys you seem to know your way around those Cutters

12:04though first timers with those yeah pretty good G he must done a little bit

12:10of soldering ey at some point practical at all do it all on on a laptop now on

12:17card and everything yeah apparently they do kids today yeah they’re born oh

12:22that’s a different use of a screwdriver in it never been in a carer either if

12:27no Austin Agro no G it’s a credit card for all these yeah all done on a laptop

12:33fishing scams stuff like that right little putting it back together though never well you normally run off by now I

12:40think this is the first time we’ve ever had somebody do the socket first and then yeah get to to up to the consumer

12:45unit it’s good we’re in a luden consumer unit it was great to have on last time out as well now available in yeah just

12:52about to say that you can now get a black one as well sounds good oh there you go mouth on there catching a few flies yeah concentration yeah good

12:59concentration there bought your fingernails as well so it’s all good so here we go lefted yeah people are best

13:06people are don’t go there Griff I’m left-handed you thought you said the best people are yeah left-handed yeah

13:12and I’ll get him a left-handed screwdriver as well which was Andy so CPC to go look you’re dressing them in this is good this is good here we go and

13:20final connection and Lee is done just press and what I like about this you’re at the top now for the Stop button look at that and Cal well we know who’s next

13:27James oh dear straight off with a bit of glare look at that look at that two lights there bit of force off that W

13:34there is yeah oh on what we’re doing here I don’t think we know here we go ah we left C already

13:42there didn’t we got got the cover off okay yeah you’re trying to remember the instructions that badly that yeah you

13:49forgot the key screws somebody glued the the cover on

13:55we like excuses got up well done this is good start round L Eco Bend and into the

14:01lud and consum unit relaxed here yeah it’s good for the blood to start squirting out really I don’t think this

14:07was the uh the bloody version we said it was the first one that’s why I asked you so if it was the first one it will be

14:14the first one I would imagine I think he had a couple of ons oh did he could could

14:21be definitely the first one there’s no plaster on that finger no all right yeah here we go Sol plenty of slack on the C

14:30yeah absolutely post that one in there just yeah oh the view showed everyone

14:36you’re married I like the way he did that the ladies a there when it’s like I am married here folks yeah oh instant

14:41what’s happened de oh like a coiled spring we’re back in

14:47again did did tell you both about the steps you didn’t listen to that advice you can’t see that cage opening can you

14:57no a good chucker I think Rick’s he come straight from a swimming pool did you manage to get the cap off full it’s full

15:06R mode it was the right idea yeah straight from the swimming pool left the cap on and uh yeah here we go right

15:14still what the socket to do right here we go this we lost the

15:21toolsy rainow the tools out the way I like it oh dear man so did you know the

15:27full rainbow was coming up did did you know name the first I’ve seen that’s why I encourage people to use the step so we

15:33can catch it out on the full rainbow so when I say to you have you watched this before and you say yeah yeah yeah it’s

15:38obviously coming apart now and hav’t really watched it have you you you’ve come along hoping that you get away with

15:44it be fair though he’s honest though that isn’t on the tools is he no no that

15:49absolutely yeah wow and we sped this up so uh yeah that’s good three attempts

15:57okay so your time for your best attempt okay so we might not be watching your best attempt here what we tend to do now

16:02is take the most comical one obviously and we go through I know you had some issues with some screws at one point you said you sort of decided to spray them

16:09all over the floor okay that made it a little bit more tricky you went the wrong oh look how short that one is I like your style it’s going to make it

16:15nice and interested on the protective conductor in the back of the box how long isn’t that gone short oh come here

16:21come here come on come on socket come to me look at that you’re one of them ones we all hate don’t you pull it off

16:26nothing comes away look at we go so two screws away from completion

16:32can we get it wedding band back in look at that yes one more what’s like going

16:38on olid do you have to wear a hat permanently when you’re on you come back with like that they call the golfer’s head don’t they where You’ got like

16:43everything’s Brown down here and then when you take it off you got a white normally Sombrero

16:50needed half a tan okay we uh Harman collected people are saying that was Ross’s advice there second fastest

16:57person on the world you thought you were slow I think he been polite SL I think we take that one yeah I don’t think

17:02Rossy time’s in any danger at 253 even though he got thrashed by James finny at 244 and his video went out didn’t it in

17:09the last seven days haven’t had a chance to look at that I’ve watched it so it’s all right so plenty of people on who’ve

17:14done this before we’ve got Neil bridg we’ve got Darren crannis on there we’ got Ross yes yeah Darren crannis on yeah

17:20great let’s have a little look over to see sometimes anyone anyone else you recognize on there you sort of up little

17:27must not Q cells Ross at Qs yeah he’s down he’s down the bottom Gary is hePlacing them on the leaderboard

17:32Ross hanging on we’re going to have to come up with things soon people are going to have to end up Vanishing off into Carland so so we’re right down

17:40there yeah okay you come around so uh obviously GFF is a good Target now look

17:45at that you’ve gone above Darren kranis again

17:51always so uh so four minutes would you say it’s outrageous for anyone to be over four minutes uh o okay

17:59it is near yeah well I mean yeah I mean people should just B give up the jobs shouldn’t they if they’re on that but uh

18:05who you starting with uh oh we start with James actually that’s not good sign James yeah that was good sign so so you

18:12didn’t do this you didn’t do this in four minutes no no I’m going to be crouching right down

18:18here my word you did this in six minutes

18:25and 40 seconds one second slower than the fastest Indian on the board there

18:31down at chish there so with David Barnes from nipex oh wow so he’s actually slower than Rick I know I’m going to

18:38have to yeah that’s a first actually so slower than Rick Rick will be delighted we’ll come on to where Rick is in a

18:43little bit here so that you could be off to Car Land in another few uh in a few weeks uh R so Lee the audience thought

18:51you would be quicker actually not that much quicker I must say that’s one so we

18:57are in you’re not in 4 minute territory you are in 5 minute territory so again I’m off back down again I tell you that

19:04shouldn’t have even got up we’re going to have to start staring these down here as a clue people normally say let’s have

19:09a look you’re right you did this in five minutes and 38 was just put you above

19:15your friend Paul elcock there okay that’s and also faster than faster than

19:20Rick oh yeah everyone’s been faster than re that’s good pretty good so yeah in in

19:26solid non-el electrician territory there yeah but not putting any flags up though are you so wow yeah you you did have a

19:34whiff that you weren’t going be as quick and you were you were correct there but that was awful your time awful like yeah

19:42well done Le anything in five minutes is good it just looks worse now because the amount of people on there but five minutes is a is a nice number to be in

19:48obviously three minutes is a lot better number to be in and you’re above Darren CR Darren yes well I when I was here a

19:54bit earlier on we actually got down to the the decimal places and worked out that I was about 04 of a second faster

20:01than Darren so sadly I’m I’m I’m much better we’re studying the footage back we are yeah match the two together later

20:09that was much appreciated you’re even struggling on alphabetical order on first and second names to actually be above him so yeah yeah so so it was

20:16great fun yeah so yeah brilliant well done thank you very much we’d like to present you with the uh the inaugral shirt w we uh it’s behind you Gordon

20:24bring in hand cam as well so yes if you do the challenge and Paul rard sent us Super Chat wants to wants to have a go

20:30out the challenge we’ll have to invite Paul along and not is he I don’t know you know bit of a risky one that would

20:36he be faster than you do you think well if he is just don’t show it well there you go so there you go look you only get

20:42this the next show you at you can you can wi so you’re a big evertonian fan so it’s like getting your first Everton

20:47shirt there I know you wear all black I suppose that’s a Liverpool thing so you don’t get seen at night when you’re darting around between the alleys so

20:53that’s all good there Lee let’s have a look at James got one for Griff as well I do I think they’re waiting for my

20:59size to come in what size is it Griff that one that one extra large is it yeah is it let’s have a look in the label

21:05let’s have a little look have your extra large label I think there’s a two in there

21:11[Music] somewhere we’ve only got two different sizes we got drown you or really drown

21:17you so uh it’s good well that was good fun well we enjoyed that yeah it was good fun you were worried about that

21:23someone was worried who emailed in earlier in the week you oh it was me yeah I emailed in last minute got

21:28dropped in and I was like electrician’s challenge what’s this is this going to be something someone’s never thought of before doesn’t know how to work I think

21:36I think if I didn’t have the near-death experience of uh cutting a main artery I think I could have done it uh maybe a

21:41couple of minutes faster but maybe next time we’ll send the cleaning Bill through disinfect the all set there was

21:47blood every I came back in it was like a war zone one tiny cut like Gall after

21:54Halloween was like that’s BR set the same we’re we’re all in now we’re we’re nice andGary’s solar install

21:59comfortable let’s get into the the meat of this then so we’re suggesting you’ve you you’ve done me every time now so you

22:06you said to me I think the last time we met each other you said to me I don’t know why you bothered with solar panels you could have just done batteries well

22:12I mean you only had four fitted right you should have had six I had six you had six you should have had eight yes

22:18okay let’s just have a look we’ve got a picture of Gary’s roof okay it’s a lovely looking roof as well my M was

22:23yeah look at that fantastic absolutely fantastic so that was your that’s your six solar

22:28yeah yes they’re lovely a lot of effort to get them up there was it it was yeah let’s let’s let’s be brutally honest about this so on reflection it’s the

22:35same amount of effort almost if I’d had twice as many panels okay a couple of extra clips I understand to all the rail

22:41on maybe a joining piece and all the rest of it scaffold tow is the same the two people on the roof will be the same

22:46I would imagine for the actual installation part of it it’s going to take only a few minutes more to put more

22:52panels on so I understand that and then you peel it back on what we’re going to talk about today there’s a lot of money

22:59been invested into that roof NE on yeah but not not invested necessarily in the

23:05cost of the panels because we understand now panels are very very reasonable so that’s great especially if you’re doing

23:10maybe one story flat roofs as our good friend at Apprentice one to1 is okay that’s fine but now when you look back

23:17at trying to get your money back and obviously make a difference and go green and you threw it at me maybe you just

23:23needed batteries Gary maybe you did yeah I know keep that air fryer ticking

23:28yeah yeah yeah the one I brought picture of me air in but but yeah so we’re going to we’re going to walk this through

23:34today probably at most times giving me a smack on the wrist but could we have made equal impact for the customer

23:42because we’re interested if I put my customer hat on I’m interested in saving money okay so if I don’t need something

23:48and can save money that’s a really good option potentially when you think I only got six panels on the roof for the

23:54effort that it cost okay that’s where we’re I’m looking at that roof G I bet you you’re worried at night aren’t you you’re thinking the storms are coming

24:00are those tiles on properly is there going to be a damp patch appearing in the bedroom roof not you not quite

24:07getting to the toilet the um I can’t get to the toilet now cuz it’s it’s full of batteries yeah

24:13abely that’s my plant room a minute minute a minute please tell me at the minute James say at the minute just one

24:18for now for now let’s have a look at the plant room as well while there this is Gary’s plant room which happens to have

24:24a basin and toilet it does yeah okay so yeah and I’m I’m cool with that so me

24:30and the wife I’m absolutely cool with that because I think the benefit of being green means that doesn’t bother me

24:36at all it’s in a toilet at the end of the day there’s only a couple of things we ever do in there and one of them is obviously clean and tidy okay so that’s

24:42fine so I’ve got no worries with that at all but like you said about the roof I must admit I still look up every time I

24:48walk into my bedroom because I’m thinking will I see a brown patch I trust sha wholeheartedly and watched him

24:54do the job and it was fantastic but you still got that Al approach to it is that I watched an electrician with a

25:00different set of skills invade my roof followed by I live there when he’s left

25:06so I understand all these from a client’s point of view these are okay I was the client sometimes and cameraman

25:12others so you said and you said maybe there is a different solution but maybe

25:17one that could be considered yeah B battery only or electrical energy storage in the Posh World um why not

25:25just look at that and look at the different options that are open to you from a contractor’s perspective there’s

25:33no roof work so it’s the case of going along and apparently in about an hour with some systems uh just fting a a

25:40battery in place and connecting it up to uh to the house system whatever that

25:46might be wherever it’s going depends a little bit on what purpose it’s there to serve um and using that to to take

25:52advantage of cheap tariffs to store it store the energy and then discharging it when it’s a higher tariff period of time

25:59and is this a solution that sunn offer yeah definitely we’ve um you know we’ve got our standard hybrid kit with

26:05batteries um which are great as a PV connected system or even a standalone AC

26:11coupled system for you know using that cheaper power from the grid um we have a new product that’s just launched in the

26:17UK called LifeLink um this is an all-in-one unit so it’s available in three different sizes from 2.5 Kow up to

26:245 kwatt we were saving it to the second section Sal pitch young man keep going keep

26:30going we may show it later on secretly in a bit of footage yeah so yeah we do we do an all-in-one unit which is you

26:37know great for this this Market of AC coupling um and utilizing that cheaper

26:44power off peak but I’m going to need a bit of convincing Gordon convince me well hold on well obviously we know

26:50obviously ever since you’ve had solar yeah you like to bore people to death with the generation do probably about 10

26:56times a day I love it doesn’t matter if someone’s not interested in the street as well you will accost them and give a

27:02little one to one session and again I think that’s part of the journey I think if once you’ve gone there that you know

27:08it’s so incredible to think and I like the way they they sometimes call it a power plant you’ve got your own

27:13producing set at home producing electricity but somebody who’s been electrical industry since the age of 16

27:19I quite like to look at the fact that I’ve generated energy that I’ve stored or used in my house I love that and that

27:25might be an electrical thing it might just be a me I don’t know but I absolutely love that but there’s still

27:31other ways in there well let’s have a little look someone’s already said it there’d have to be a pretty good differential between the peak and off

27:37peak rates to justify it so we just to show you how you’re missing on Gary had add a dive into the sunsync

27:44inverter today to look at the dynamic prices on agile octopus which is halfThe difference between agile tariff and Gary’s tariff

27:49hourly rate so I think we’re can bring the first one in so just think early hours of this morning you could have

27:54been buying in your power at an average of 7.2 p a kilowatt is that for 3 hours

28:00that’s for Y hours probably enough time to to fill a 10 Kow battery well no

28:05you’ve only got five James but I’m getting another one aren’t I James promise me I’m getting thank you very much you only got five kils yeah cuz I

28:12haven’t sent the other one yet I don’t want to bring it up too many times tonight put it in the comments when get his battery this was yeah that’s what

28:18you could have bought in so s on so no hang on cuz this is new to me

28:24you’re throwing this stuff at me so I could have charged up from 3:30 in the morning till 6:00 at an average of about

28:307 P yes so I could have filled my two batteries only got one but we’ll come back to it for 72 yes now I reckon my

28:38house runs up between 7 and 10 kwatt hours okay depending whether I’m at home

28:43or whether the kids are so St I’m never at home but yeah sort so I could have

28:49gone I’m I’m going to run the risk here and just charged up those batteries for

28:5572p and if it had been the best day ever just took one for the team yeah if I’d

29:00have hopefully got an export tariff I’m not there yet I’m building this series up hav got an export tariff that’s a gamble worth making in this time of year

29:06because I’ve got I I managed I think to create less than 1.2 kilowatt hours today so your battery is not full well

29:14no it’s yeah and got a whiff in it it’s like it’s empty yeah yeah yeah Michelle’s already in she’s got a

29:20feeling that you’re going to go through a change of energy Supply soon she’s not looking forward to that obviously now

29:25because your battery’s not full you’re buying in energy so let’s go to the next slide so you’re now buying in if you’re

29:30if you’re obviously the family like to the sensible hour normally sort of tea time we’ve only got one tariff so we’re

29:36we’re on whatever the cap is so you’re at about 35 P so you’ve now probably used that 10 Kow hours you’ve paid

29:44£350 and again On’s let’s just hang on a second

29:49yeah Griff’s joining it as well yeah that’s bring up your right okay so so

29:54that doesn’t sound a lot you know not many people are going to lose a lot of sleep over £350 and saving therefore £278 but my

30:02big fear is we’ve just started this awful looking weather and I reckon we won’t break out of it until March if

30:08normal I’ve got months of this and that’s for one day yeah so if you you pull that 2.78 by a year all right best

30:17part of ,000 of energy I’ve got to buy anyhow oh

30:23yeah I think we need I think we need to run

30:29look at that tomorrow today and tomorrow that’s five oh I’ve never seen any money before wait is that I thought the

30:36scrapman didn’t pay in cash we it wasn’t for Liverpool was he doesn’t Okay so so let’s let’s work this

30:42through then so yeah I I I like that because you’ve got the option of fixing

30:48your energy price okay that that agile tariff will move around and this is a discussion we had at a show I think I’ve

30:53got an option of fixing my energy price and if I didn’t have the expens of the the roof and me liking the fact that I

30:59look at the weather and is it going to be sunny and all the rest of it I’m I’m almost in control of me

31:05Energy prices as long as I buy them in on the agile tariff and you’ve told me before that tariff has actually Fallen

31:10to a negative value yeah it was last week I was looking on the train just to see how much one you were bleeding on

31:16about about your well you could have it was negative yeah I think were’re paying you 2 p a kilow out to take the

31:23energy right I think about three months ago o person paying people one pound for

31:28every every unit they used not exported they used so it was obviously a day where there was massive over production

31:35uh in the UK so it’s uh yeah quite extraordinary okay in the back end of the grid we you join in as well well I

31:42thought so I was just waiting for you to segue in you’re you’re a bit sleepy tonight though it’s probably the hair that’s keeping you warm on top and

31:48uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah uncomfortable hot we’ve got huge generating capacity we’ve now got lots

31:53of solar we’ve got lots of wind going on as well and and in a time when we’ve got

31:58loads of wind blowing and it’s bright sunny days we’ve got all that generation we’ve got to remember it’s got to go

32:04somewhere it’s AC so either we’re going to store it we’re going to use it to pump those hydro plants up uh pump the

32:10water up to top of the hill there’s only so much of that you can do and at some point they’re going to want to encourage you to use it because it’s cheaper to

32:17pay you Gary to use it than it is to shut down the power station right and

32:22and this is This Ss of opportunity to me I think I think electricians and the ones we’ve spoke to and we’ve seen them

32:28at lots of shows where they’d be actually directed at solar and battery or other shows is it’s the roof that’s

32:34the one thing and always talk about maybe you need to get yourself in with a roofer maybe combine it let them do the

32:40bit they’re good at we know that there’s some great training out there people can be shown how to do a roof I watch Sean do mine brilliantly I’ve got no problem

32:46with that at all but it could be the barrier for a certain percentage of electricians to think I don’t want to do

32:51roofs and scaffold him so I’m going to turn down this opportunity but I think today today we’re going to be able to

32:57show a really compelling story of actually doing all the other stuff it still be if I use your system it will

33:02still be solar ready won’t it of course yeah but I will be benefiting from the minute I start it and it just seems like

33:08too good of an opportunity to turn away Tom someone’s already yeah someone’s already shipped it’s great obviously if you live in an apartment that’s

33:14expensive flat if it’s not owned by the council that’s the yeah obviously for

33:19apartments and things like that is a is is an option yeah isn’t it yeah yeah someone’s already are you going to get a

33:25wind turbine well we’ve had some conversations we’ve been talking about a system obviously I don’t

33:31think I’d get up to the is it a 12 KW hour yes at a site to this morning uh

33:36where somebody installed a 12 Kow wind turbine on a 12 Kow inverter yeah um as soon as we turn that on so like the

33:42weather’s not been great today we turned that on and straight away it was up at 10 kilowatt and that was just constantly

33:47turning out so even now where it’s pitched black at night it’s still giving power to the house so it’s another great

33:52way of giving power into the into the home yeah so that that side there the they’ve got one of our hybrid inverters

33:58and our hybrid inverters will take wind power or PV power um so both the inputs

34:04can be wind both can be PV or a mixture of the two okay so um you know some people will have PV and they’ll leave

34:11one of the mppts free for the future to Future proof themselves if they do want a win turbine um so it was quite an

34:17interesting site today it’s one you can keep it’s like the thermost flask of inverters it’ll put things in that are

34:23cold and keep them cold it’ll put things in that are hot and keep them hot does doesn’t matter which one you put them but you can’t put them both in together and you can with yours you wind and

34:30solar can you firest flask of the electrical industry so Sun sinking vers love it okay so so I’m underway yeah

34:38this agile tariff let’s let’s be let’s be devilment in the thing is it going to be every day is there going to be an option every day for me to charge

34:45cheaply or if I jump on an agile tariff hoping to get some cheap energy in my battery that all of a sudden I find

34:52mysteriously it’s not as cheap and I’m I’m now paying 1 at 6:00 at night the

34:57challenge is you set the Buy price yeah so you set when the price drops under a certain limit start charging your

35:03battery yes and then obviously you can don’t choose to sell it if it goes above a certain price as well so you’re in charge so the risk would be and this is

35:09going to really play on your mind G do it you you could back the wrong horse you could you could set your charge rate

35:16too high so imagine you’d set it at seven p no no you got up in the morning

35:22you think I’m going to I’m going to charge when it hits 7 P but then later in the day they’re paying you two p understand that yeah understand I

35:28understand that’s a risk but if I know I’m going to use 10 kwatt hours and I know that’s at 35p without playing the

35:34game and I can get it at anything under 35p I’ve already won ignoring the cost

35:39of the battery in the inverter okay I’ve already won so if I got it at half that price if I if I went I’m just going to

35:45set it at 20 P yeah I’m already winning because all the other times I’ll be at

35:5135 yeah so I I don’t think that’s a game you need you don’t even have to play you you can probably have a a little bit of

35:57fun with it but I think once you get to a certain point in the in the payback system you just can you just lock it in

36:02can you I’m going to now say my energ is only going to be 20p and and if you don’t want to get involved in any of

36:08that there’s always the really simple option of going for something like a straightforward economy 7 type tariff

36:14which is still available so that’s going to give you seven hours of off peak at night um some of them now are being

36:20advertised as vehicle charging but some of those tariffs will allow you to charge the battery um as well some of

36:27them down to 10 p a unit as a flat rate guaranteed so you don’t need to think about that Baseline price what you’re

36:32going to buy at what you’re going to sell at it’s a 10 P difference to a 30 P um import tariff it’s 20 p a unit

36:40guaranteed 2 pound a day 730 pounds a year on a 10 kilowatt hour per day usage

36:46and that’s what I am about so in Gary go green which is on the eix energy Channel you’re seeing my journey through this

36:52episode two’s been shot and ready for release episode three you’ll see tonight but will’ll get released on the energy Channel as well so yeah it’s it’s yeah

36:59it’s locking your energy prices in at a comfortable rate and it you know we’re all worried now we’ve lost 7% reduction

37:04Energy prices but we lost the cap so we paying more but if you got it in a 20 P you won you can choose that rate on our

37:11app so uh in The sunson Connect app if you’re normally paying let’s say 35 P

37:16per unit peak in our app you can you choose octopus we’ve got the continuous

37:22API with octopus where it’s got the the live tariff all the time so like you said you don’t have to gamble all the

37:28way down to 7 and A2 P or 8 p you can set it at a level that you’re comfortable at whether it’s 15 p and

37:34then our system will automatically charge the batteries for you once it goes below that threshold that you’ve

37:40set and you can also flip it on its head as well so um you can do energy trading

37:46through our app also so you can set okay I want to charge the batteries from the Grid at 15 but if there is a a high

37:53demand in the UK I want to sell back to the grid you can set at what rate you

37:59want to sell back to them at and that you the sell rate is part of the The Continuous um price in that you’re

38:06talking about exporting the energy back from the battery to the grid and being

38:11paid by your energy provider to do that and what sort of money can people get for that so you know on non windy

38:19overcast days when there’s a big demand uh on on the network you know sometimes you might be getting paid upwards of 40

38:25P per you it but if if you know if the customers bought that power in at

38:3215 it’s it’s win-win it’s 25 p

38:38uh welcome to this week’s math challenge so so Jang on I’ve had a little think

38:43here I’m I’m seeing this in the winter seeing the benefit in the winter because obviously I’m not getting a lot at all now and it’s quite disappointing I need

38:49an extra batter but we’ll come back to that but um it’s a little bit disappointing but I could play I could play a different game in the summer what

38:55if I kept the same game going so in the summer when there’s lots of solar generation everywhere and all of a

39:01sudden I think I’m going to have a little game here I’m going to set it quite low on my adob to maybe a couple of Pence and I’m going to hopefully get

39:07up in the morning and have my two batteries no I did that again my two batteries fully charged and then I’m

39:14going to hope it’s going to be blistering and I’m going to export that in the day and that could well mean that

39:21I’ve beat the the price I’ve paid in I’m getting paid back yeah yeah so I’m not worried about charging 10 Kow and hoping

39:28the sun’s in the back of the garden for long enough to get them fully charged I’m going to play the reverse game I quite like that game actually that’s

39:34probably more appealing than summer to get up in the morning knowing you’re already winning because you’ve set it at

39:39a really low price it’s a good start to the day yeah it is a good start to the day and then just think how much can I export is that is that an option Griff

39:45or have I just dream that one up because I’m looking at I think there’s a there’s a for everybody there’s a there’s a level of can you be bothered there’s a

39:52level of risk there’s a level of what do you actually want from that battery system do you want a guaranteed week by

39:58week return go for a fixed unit price on your import and your export do you want

40:04to look at doing the export which might pay you 4050 P I know that some companies last year when there was an

40:10energy event I.E that the grid was really stressed you wouldn’t you’ve been to events like that before and you’re

40:16asked to leave if I remember rightly um that they were paying up to 250 per

40:22kilowatt hour to force discharge people’s batteries and that’s happened actually the last two Winters right um

40:29but again it’s it’s what approach you want to take where do you want to enter that do you want to be looking at that

40:34and sometimes it’s about having to explain it to the customer as well um a lot of this can be really complicated

40:40for the customer especially when they’re a bit analog so do they just go in at the

40:45Baseline and hope for another battery and go I’m just going to try this on and off peak thing and see what happens but

40:52I think I’m pretty typical I mean I’ve never ever changed enery provider in the entire time I’ve had an energy provider

40:59what’s your unit rate I’m I’m on I’ve always been on the whatever the Tariff is thing they do now so that’s all I’ve

41:04ever had I’ve never ever tried to get it cheap or anything I just go I’m just going to pay that my wife’s on tonight

41:10if she’s on she said she won’t get back from working time but she but she said to me yeah yeah she said to me she said

41:15we’re not changing energy tariffs are we because I’ll be at work and you’ll be ringing me saying it’s 150 whatever you got on in the electricity turn it off

41:22and you can see that coming if you know what I mean but again it’s making sure you’ve stack the cards in your corner by

41:28having either enough battery to provide the energy for your property and control the price of them charging and batteries

41:34up and this is education I think the electricians hopefully through courses that you do and stuff that we provide

41:40that they can give those people another option especially those people a bit like myself that are a bit you I’m a

41:45three-story house as well I didn’t tell my installer that until he arrived you know I gave him all those surprises it’s like 50° pitch and all those you so I

41:52knew mine was a little bit challenging but again you know as electrician want to sell a product in you know let’s

41:58leave that bit out maybe give it as another option and at one stage for you it’s going to be really confusing isn’t it because since you’ve had your system

42:04installed you’ve been going around switching stuff off yes now if you go on to one of these nift tariffs your family

42:11is going to be so confused cuz you’re going to come home and say switch that on quick Qui he already does get the

42:17oven on already I don’t care shower now he does it can you imagine that you

42:22getting paid 2 pound a kilowatt hour he’s turning your ovens on yeah my kids are be so silly they’ll turn the gas on

42:27as well it’s like we turned everything on gas no heat pump no no no getting getting I’ll justart there’s Lads of

42:33questions coming in on things like g99 fit and batteries and Vault droping bigger cables airdale Springs Paul just

42:39mentioned uh there we’ve had a look at airdale spring so we will get back to it but that brings us on to we we’ll mop up

42:45some of those more technical ones as we go on there’s quite a bit on there but we’ll look at bigger batteries actually because we were down at solar andThe SunSynk Innagator Series

42:51storage last week and you’re 10 Kow G is nothing he’s only got five we had a look

42:57at if anyone seen the video that went out this is a a Mega Battery um so where

43:02would I put this on the drive or and I got to make a little space in the G let’s have a look at what on got another picture one of Joe let’s have a look so

43:07it comes in three different sizes okay the me that’s the Mega’s the big one Gary okay so so that’s the one I’ll get

43:14that go that’s driveway that’s replacing the garden shed and that’s just down by where you keep the bikes is that the

43:19idea going from the right to the left is and mobile seems a bit of an odd word there that don’t look like you can get a pallet truck under one end and move it

43:26anyway you mate on the other end is it so two PES okay right so we’re doing one one megawatt what’s the small one uh

43:32that’s the uh 200 200 Kow hour middle one is .5 half a megawatt and then we’ve

43:39got the 24 megawatt Beast okay it seems ridiculous though doesn’t it what would we want that for yeah but they’re fully

43:45self-contained batteries in there inverter in there but primarily for inverting batteries and charging

43:51batteries not necessarily solar but you could connect solar and they fully air conditioning they’ve got fire they’re

43:57great they’ve even got Garrick a security system in there I bet they have think did you

44:03must bet they yeah okay they look pricey

44:09is it going to cost me a few good what megawatt we’re talking half a million no less than that so the the price at what

44:16the the one megawatt unit will go out uh at is you’re not selling me one by the way you can be straight to the point I

44:22know you still have to one one five k for you out so the the one megawatt it’s going to go out uh to the End customer

44:29at less than 500 grand um so um and you know cple quite quite a bit less um so

44:38in between I don’t want to talk prices cuz I’ll we did a show special when we yeah there was a figure quoted uh on

44:45the show special watch the video for the show special so so so a hefty investment

44:50so Gordon you’re going to have to tell me where I’m going to have to because we know it’s not going on a drive where or in a garden where’s it going where we

44:55going to put megawatt of of energy solves a lot of problems so the first one is obviously some wind turbines behind there isn’t it yeah so obviously

45:03theyy look a whiff of AI Excess power you know you step up a level the more Sol you’ve got the more wind you’ve got

45:09you don’t want to give it away at the cheapest price to you as advantageous to hold your power back and drop it into

45:15the network when you need it right so that would be the supply authorities in our country would would say we’ve got a

45:21load of excess energy here we’re going to hold on to it no no independent producers right okay so an independ be

45:27anybody really but that’s the first problem is you don’t want to they don’t want to give that energy wear for free

45:32yeah well no okay so so you’re saying on that larger scale that they wouldn’t get

45:38paid to return that energy they want to keep it because like us at home 35 p a

45:44kilowatt hour or whatever their equivalent is as a business rate the more energy they can keep the more they can thin their B bills out is that what

45:50you’re saying that’s the first problem then there’s the amount of power you can export or import to a supply and it’s a lot of of installations are grid

45:57constraint yeah so and when you go over certain levels of import there’s a

46:02penalty per kilowatt hour in a commercial installation which we never see in the domestic world but you might

46:09have an installation that’s limited to X kilowatt and if you go X+ one suddenly

46:15your tariff increases by 3 4 five 20 fold and that’s called Peak load shaving

46:21so you want to just cut that out so you don’t get that happens a lot in heavy usages like Hospital environments and

46:28things like that so so make that nice and easy for people so I’m allowed to have let’s make it easy a kilowatt okay

46:34that’s all I’m allowed if I go over a kilowatt and I don’t so another 100 Watts over the top I get penalized for

46:39that it’s a bit like the old um when we had um lagging power factor correction and stuff like that what was this goas

46:46goas no no no come on let’s so when power factor when you you had you started dragging it to you know to

46:51lagging saen went off we turned off stuff so similar sort of thing is your Penal for drawing too much energy and

46:58this system would help us solve it right okay I understand I’m back in the room okay thank you so you have a maximum

47:03demand yeah from the grid and then obviously industrial consumers are heavily penalized for taking power at

47:08the wrong time of day as well that might be factored into the agreement so they don’t you know things like yeah you

47:16don’t take it during those peak hours when everyone wants to be at home cooking the tea okay yeah yeah so again but your business still runs at that

47:22time how are you going to service your own energy needs y okay again trickle charge your battery off peak or during

47:28those cheap rare hours and then deploy that energy storage instead of taking it from the grid to avoid peak time charges

47:35I think the most uh you know the applications that we see is the power redundancy pce so you might have

47:41hospitals who at the moment have got big diesel petrol generators as redundancy power where they’re being

47:47serviced you know once twice a year um so redundancy power but there’s a

47:52there’s a big piece in um the companies and the businesses that are grid restricted so you know during the day

47:58they’re they’re at the cap they’re hitting the limit on what they uh what they can bring in from the grid and they

48:04now want to install EV charges but they’ve not got any Headroom to do that with this solution um we can charge the

48:12container R storage uh batteries off peak when the load is less than in the

48:17day and then the EV charges can be powered from the containerized solution

48:23um so it’s keeping them under that cap but it’s G scope to to take the boxes

48:28that they need to take for for Ev and and this is trying to hold the grid up is it now it’s not the Grid’s going to

48:33fall over no it’s just just they’re cap so I take it the windings on the Transformer you know can only have you

48:39know everyone’s got to have a share with this electricity and if you gone and got greedy okay then there’s going to be an issue then this solves the problem yeah

48:46and I think moving forward as well I think we’ll see more sort of DSR agreements demand side response where

48:51there’s the days when as we spoke about before where there’s over production uh um whether you know people having large

48:59amounts of commercial storage can help absorb some of that excess and um you

49:04know the cheaper rates and again even with commercial tariffs there’s commercial tariffs out there where you do get a cheaper rate off

49:11peak and the term you just used there is one that a lot of people might not be familiar with the DSO yeah um so we we

49:18all we we know there as DNS right distribution Network operators and dsos

49:24are now all they’re all rebranding renaming to dsos which is distributed systems operators because now we’re

49:32talking about energy flow coming both ways in and out of that that point of use that we’ve always had historically

49:38we’ve got storage we’ve got EV we’ve got solar PV Etc so now it’s about that two-way flow of energy yeah the cnics

49:46out there and maybe not the electricians watching this the cnics out there say well we’ll just increase the grid we’ll just make the grid bigger we’ll just put

49:52in bigger cables we’ll do we’ll just impr if we improve Pro the grid then we won’t have to do all of these other

49:58Solutions is that even an option well let’s have a look at the pictures you know grid upgrades here’s the one this is one that they’ve worked on the me

50:04they’ve just done some undergrounding it took them six months it’s been it’s been the slowest process you’ve ever seen

50:11can’t rush quality though you can’t rush quality and and I think I’ve got to I managed to pick up just for you actually

50:17I managed to pick up a little bit of little bit of offcut cable there from from when we’re doing it there so that’s the leave it away from Lee yeah it’s Al

50:25Lee all right the again when you like it was twisted pair as well was that to keep the harmonics down is it

50:33there’s another picture I think there should be one yeah this is the sort of is that this is expensive stuff it doesn’t look expensive there’s a bit of

50:39concrete in doing it but the planning the time it takes you got to work back where do those cables go to they’re not

50:44going to upgrade those cables and what about the losses what what are the transmission losses we we’ve got all

50:50these power stations operating all over the country the transmission losses across the country are rough ly

50:5750% I was looking for some inspiration there so if we can localize that that

51:03power generation as in having solar PV and embedded generators locally that

51:08means that the losses are going to be significantly less yeah and we see more and more with a lot of the big

51:14commercial PV installs now where they’re getting put on g100 where there’s strict no export um regulations so you know

51:22having this sort of commercialized battery storage where they can cuz they’re not allowed to export they’ve

51:28got that battery storage and it’s it’s weth saying it with our containerized storage solutions but they’re pretty

51:35much plug and play um you know once they’re delivered to site it’s a big plug though right big plug big plug and

51:42a lot of play could you could you want that plug in I wouldn’t trust Jimmy or me

51:48to I could do it in six minutes eventually so so so the

51:55Solutions are there already so people say to us all the time at shows and that and we especially in our EV days when we going around there the grid can’t copePredicted energy storage capacity in and around Skipton

52:01if we we got an EV tomorrow the g go it looks like the solutions are there before the problems turned up am I right

52:07in thinking that well they know it’s coming so I mean the DSO but they’ve got a picture there’s a northern power grid

52:13one here the the dsos have already worked out where this is going okay so one here so the this is an online tool

52:20this is for us in Skipton here I boiled it down for our local electricians so Northern power grid have mapped out by

52:28uh Council area by substation level how much storage is on the network at the minute and where it’s going so this is

52:34Craven where we are bear in mind Skipton we’ve got one town and then we’ve got another town at the top of our area in

52:40the maps so not a big area at the minute there’s a you know way less than a

52:46megawatt so yeah 169 kilowatt of storage in the area or it was so that’s what

52:52last year current so the ability to store en is nothing it’s nothing okay but it’s a tiny area

52:57though it’s a tiny area Okay so so they’re mapping this out to say tell us what then uh well they’ve got a plan

53:03their investment in the network where people going to put storage where people going to have solar where the EVS where the heat pumps G so then we B the next

53:09slide Jo this is where it’s gone in by 2040 7 megawatts in this area seven

53:16containers I could I could I could fix that in six weeks got some sales you want me to make

53:24the connections for you though G will throw a bit training and if he

53:29come and do the race ball as well so we’ll all get a touch wow okay so you’re right that could be in your hospital

53:34that could be one at the hospital it could be dotted in a local substation it could be it could be the one we’re going to put in here yeah and we know it’s

53:41incredibly difficult round here because getting it commercial EV charging is really difficult and it because we’ve

53:46obviously got a higher station down here when he can’t put one in can he put a decent enough cuz he it’s full is it the

53:53actual the Transformer is full yeah so the solution is local storage Little bitor James eyes lit up there if you

54:00could give him the name of that high station I can see see a 200 K contain

54:05the hospital straight away but it’s a great opportunity isn’t it for the the viewers out there you know everyone

54:11knows yeah someone who’s a car dealership or a hospital or it’s anywhere where has a generator today

54:18yeah there you know a lot of people’s domestic properties now people are using EV charges with low balancing because

54:24you know let’s say someone’s got an 80 o main incomer at the house you know if they’re using a 32 amp charger it’s the

54:30same problem with business with commercial as it is with residential is people are are at that limit so yeah

54:36didn’t think of that one that’s good yeah s of yeah sorting your own to opportunity opportunity I would suggest

54:41okay you just again like we said if you’re not interested in getting on that roof you don’t have to the the the

54:47opportunity is there and I think again a compelling story to the client whether it be commercial industrial or domestic

54:53person compelling story and understanding what they can do and benefit their business you you know it

54:58won’t take a lot of investment in yourself will it to get that knowledge and all of a sudden it’s about the

55:04person that told me about this that can give you the solution wins the job in it yeah I think there’s a cracking

55:09opportunity here any more slides to a company that no no when people are in on Data Centers and all sorts I think I mean we’ve done we’ve done 50 minutes

55:16already actually where’s Rick today Joe actually he’s back in so he must have just finished his part-time job he’s onWhere’s Rick this week?

55:22a pizza course this week obviously Rick St will expand his Horizons he’s had enough of the electrical industry so

55:28he’s his nighttime kerun course R’s batching up some look like hand

55:34stretched pizzas there yeah he’s he does like his food he’s probably in a better sector maybe than electrical he loves a

55:40bit electrical but we know Rick loves a little bit of food don’t he so I think he’s but he has also been out with you this week didn’t he a visit down to

55:47Rick’s Grand what so it’s Rick’s he calls her granny or nanny or whatever it is it’s

55:52his his wife’s Nan okay what a lovely lady I know she she was a considerable

55:58age so well into her 80s as spritely as you couldn’t believe okay in the garage there was a few fizzy like beverages

56:05that she enjoys drinking by all account she’s very good at it as well as Rick’s got a couple of classic stories of not

56:11keeping up with Nana okay so that might have Rick’s back have a discussion about that what a lovely lady we went and did

56:17her we did her a bit of a favor but she did us a favor and it got us a wonderful Rick’s to time should we have a lookRick’s Tool Time

56:23what he was up to [Music] hello and welcome to Rick’s tool time

56:28again it’s another glorious day but we’re not here for that let’s take a look at this keto

56:35workbench so here we have it the folder bullet workbench incredibly easy to set up I

56:42just pop that there if I just hold on to the sides press these two tabs that drops out so that allows me to

56:50pop everything on the work surface meaning it’s not going to get wet on the the floor I’m not having to bend over to

56:57get into that box to get my screws and my plugs out so let’s run through some of these features you’re probably

57:03thinking well it opened up easily enough is it going to close easily enough yes it will

57:09however if we just pop this in like so if I pull that tight on the top here

57:17it will show you that it’s locked into position so now that we’ve got it in locked in place we can have use it as a

57:22workbench as is but let’s say we want to cut something on it so we’ve got a bit of tray a bit of trunk in we need to

57:28lock it into place we’ve got some adjustable g-clamps which are nicely fitted into the bottom

57:34here so with the g-clamp we can adjust the head this

57:40way once that’s in we can slide it into the bench up there and then closely into

57:48here which locks that into position so we’ve got a second one around this other side here and again if we just repeat

57:54what we did did on the first one let’s just adjust that one ever so slightly pop that in slide that on there squeeze

58:02the handle and then there we go I just pop that into there a nice little feature with these clamps is the fact

58:08that this slides so imagine that that was open fully and we started to clamp these Away by the time you got to this

58:15section let’s say once it was clamped in you’re going to have this stabbing

58:20you in the leg or in your gral area but with this one if I just push

58:26that one back I to just pull that little trigger in there slide it up here let’s

58:32say my materials that wide clamp that in as you can see there it’s not sticking

58:37out so much is it also just to mention with this the way that you lock it into this bench let’s say is if we squeeze

58:44this handle and up when the handle is open it actually locks it into the bench

58:51so if I squeeze that slide it into the slot there release the handle it ain’t

58:56coming back out so today we’re only going to use the workbench so we don’t actually need the clamps so let’s remove

59:02them and again as you saw earlier where I removed them from I can just pop them both back in there take that one out of

59:11there stick it under air for now I pop the bag a few

59:18tools and maybe even some screws and washers to save my back now I’ve run

59:23through a few feet on the workbench I’ve got to fit these laso Essence flood lights so let me know is it great or is

59:31it a gimmick get your votes in but till then I’ll see you on the flip side

59:37taada absolutely soing

59:45wet can’t believe

59:51[Music] it there he is we’ve got a little sneaky piz Pizza look at him fantastic I think

59:57I think everybody can appreciate the effort that Rick goes into Rick’s to on but for me that was possibly the best

1:00:03one it’s ever done but I am stalling for time a little bit early because above your head is the tool that needs to be

1:00:09summoned down and I can tell by the side grin you’ve given me there is that this is going to be the highlight maybe not

1:00:15just of this evening maybe the entire year okay so well let’s ask the audience what they think as well is it good or

1:00:21gimmick get your things in do you think it’s yeah put in the word good or gimmick now interestingly Ross sand is

1:00:26on and I think we actually spotted Ross had one of these first did we yeah that’s when Rick latched on to it

1:00:33Anderson EV in store we bought it from a well-known uh retail that offers click and collect service that’s why we got

1:00:39our one happen to be open on Sundays as well they do and they now deliver within maybe an hour or less sometimes okay so

1:00:46yeah so um that’s where we got our one from and I think for what we paid for it it wasn’t a lot of money it seemed to do

1:00:52what it suggested but I’m not trying to not trying to influence any people’s great or gimmick getting over the shock you paid

1:00:59for something Gary yes Gordon was on H and Rick was a bit like me in that

1:01:04battery all he did all week was going on about it got to about Thursday I said shall we go and get it are we having one

1:01:10are we get it delivered no no no we went and picked it up got us out didn’t he he was on holiday so yeah fight to eight

1:01:18pick up a tool Ben drop drop it in there how much was it I I want to say something like 89 quid yeah it weren’t a

1:01:25lot of money yeah it wer a lot of money does that include the groinal area clamp add extra just it’s the groinal area

1:01:32yeah I do like that it’s good yeah people like it by the looks of it here but that means nothing because the final

1:01:38decision leave for the embarrassment of joining me on your hands and knees will be yours okay but to do that we’re going

1:01:44to need to get on hands and knees are you going to be able to use the the button for me I’ll be I’ll be in control okay that sounds fantastic

1:01:52that’s let’s give ourselves a little bit bit of room Le so uh no practi wired up wellPlacing the tool on the Tool Wall

1:01:58okay I wired that actually there’s a story it was painful so just just to

1:02:04remind you okay for because you haven’t watched many of these before or sorry S I said many I almost got it right any of

1:02:10these before okay so we’re going to need to hold our hands up in the air we need to courage it down with the following

1:02:17phrase not there we’re not we’re there we’re staggered and we’re going to

1:02:23go yeah imagine people at work they’re going to record this bit snip it out

1:02:29yeah to me on your Christmas card okay ready yeah hands up then and you’re ready and give us one

1:02:35go really that is probably the worst S I didn’t go with you endday you left me

1:02:41hang there yeah did you do a bit of quiring day were you there with your white white full outfit in the day back

1:02:47in there I suppose it’s easier way get the lead off the roof here we go then so here we go ready together we’ll do this one together

1:02:53ready

1:03:01yes we look a right one didn’t we right here we go so take that hold that we’ll send it back up if you can send me back

1:03:07up for me Jimmy here we go so talk me through what the uh yes

1:03:12I’ll talk you through this we’ll have to wait for the loud noise to go up okay so we got rid of the loud noise so what we’ve got here is the toall wall okay

1:03:18we’ve got the toall from above we got the tool wall we have okay we have uh normally normally positioned down here

1:03:25in the B you don’t need to look with the camera because you can’t see down bottom left hand corner down here we have the Makita coffee maker which doesn’t make

1:03:31two cups of coffee in 15 minutes which is traditionally the same length that it takes to have a coffee break on a

1:03:37construction site so you wouldn’t be able to make one for you and your friend and then what we do is we we go from the bottom left hand corner to the top right

1:03:43hand corner where this is number 11 so this is the best thing since slice spread okay right up here in this top

1:03:48corner now if I look above right up here in the top Corner we can clearly see somebody is positioned 11 and 1/2 the

1:03:54coffee maker and I’m going to try and get that down W that was all right a see that

1:04:02you’re welcome yeah okay I used to own used to have the record for the high jump when I was at school I was quite

1:04:08the athlete back in the day now I’ve only got his foot okay so we’re going to position that one down

1:04:13here okay so this is sort of 6 7 8 9 10

1:04:1811 okay and we sort of work our way across the board it’s your choice don’t be influenced by anything else okay put

1:04:24you think it goes so I’m going to go above average okay so that’s about a 6

1:04:30and a half do you reckon yeah 6 and a half to a seven okay all right that’s good your choice so thank you very much for that so what did the audience think

1:04:36they thought it was good yeah yeah I thought I thought for what we paid for it and we did pay for it I thought it was on someone said there’s bound to be

1:04:42one in Costco Z electrical should have gone to Costco I didn’t know they had them in Costco I was in there the other day I didn’t come out with too much

1:04:49random stuff you just tell me the name of that person again what was his name there zi US Electric cuz I got corrected

1:04:54by the great Joe Robinson that I said it wrong what should it be well I don’t know he said some other name he said I’ve got it wrong some sort of color or

1:05:00something or yeah right yeah so he corrected me on National Telly we’ve done him again he’ll be R me up later

1:05:08you oh well Gary I’ve had to correct again hopefully he’s on this evening a trip to Costco are you Costco person um

1:05:15no I I used to go in quite a bit uh but I found myself breathing in more and

1:05:20more um so I’ve stopped going to Costco trying to eat a little bit

1:05:26healthier I don’t go to Costco I just look like it’s natural it’s a natural look naturally athletic okay Costco of

1:05:32course oh okay yeah used to go for all the freebies before they stopped them you know with Co oh they’re back now

1:05:37they’re back yeah I was in there on Sunday you’re not talking about things on cocktail sticks you don’t walk around there trying to get a full meal do

1:05:43you walk out with the cookies yeah okay yeah it goes in through the window

1:05:50that’s they have got them people they have got them in Costco be interested know the Costco prices next time we have

1:05:57a look do random stuff came out with the canoe once what did you go in for toilet

1:06:05roll yeah me okay meanwhile back at the solar install that isn’t solar was fully

1:06:10battery okay so that’s good so we got I think we got new products and we Sun s got a little sneaky we a bit early you went full s

1:06:18pitch early on didn’t you with that one got what is it called just give me the name again uh LifeLink in the ukuk okay

1:06:25it’s been out in South Africa okay where there describe the uh Power Network

1:06:31system out in South Africa someone’s already on and said it’s rubbish you described it it’s a bit like

1:06:37uh popcorn I think was one phrase I used um but yeah in South Africa you you

1:06:44you’re not allowed to export to the grid the grid isn’t stable enough and you probably have five or six power cuts a day is that something yeah so in South

1:06:51Africa you know in the UK we traditionally have uh schedule of when we might put our bins out each week um

1:06:56in South Africa they have a daily schedule of when they have no power so they call it load shedding it’s between

1:07:02one and eight hours and that’s every day so in South Africa if you’ve not got PV and a battery or a massive generator in

1:07:09your back Garden uh you need a lot of candles and Y David Marshall cross on Facebook he’s just back from South

1:07:15Africa has just basically said that yeah they have big problems with yeah massive Lord shedding and big houses have

1:07:20batteries okay and that’s why we’re trying so let’s let’s breing are we no G no no well you met up with Keith down at

1:07:27Sol now if you don’t know anyone who doesn’t know Keith sunn have got a YouTube channel yeah and it’s Keith Keith’s a legend himself on there isn’t

1:07:35he very passionate I would say about about the whole thing yes yeah yeah yeah he’s probably the most passionate CEO uh

1:07:42in the industry so it’s good and a character as well I would like to suggest for you said it yeah he’s an

1:07:47absolute he’s an absolute lovely bloke and I got to spend a few minutes with him uh we cut out a lot of the stuff at the end because he carried on after

1:07:53afterwards but let’s see what uh the the New Life Link looks like something a little bit different for episode threeThe SunSynk LifeLynk

1:08:00of Gary goes green I’ve been joined by Keith go CEO of sunsync but I’ve got

1:08:05some questions from the actual people watching the videos believe it or not and they’ve said to me maybe when I’ve

1:08:10got them my separate inverter and battery in my plant room you know the room that a Bas and a toilet installed

1:08:16maybe that look doesn’t suit them and I see behind me something looks like a massive inverter what’s going on here oh

1:08:21so it’s a lot more than invert it’s all in one year it so this is an inverter B directional inverter with a battery in

1:08:28one so it makes life so easy to install you don’t have to open it up everything is Plug and Play pluged at the bottom

1:08:34and you can parall if you want another one you put another whole system together you can do you can mix and match it so youve got three different

1:08:40sizes so you got two and A2 a three and a/2 a 5 and A2 kilowatt so three

1:08:45different sizes it can mix mix and match any of them okay so when you say that it’s talking about the kilowatt hour rating of the batteries that are built

1:08:51inside of here the whole thing whole thing in there so by doing that I’m going to lose a lot of cables and there

1:08:57no caes so all your switches you’ve got your battery isolator you got your solar isolator you’ve got your Mains

1:09:03protection underneath there your fuse uh you’ve got everything all you want and everything just plugs in you don’t have to open it it’s just snap snap snap snap

1:09:09snap put it on the wall jobs are good and you don’t have to do anything else it’s all in one so this is probably

1:09:15maybe looking at those people where it’s going to be more on show obviously not everyone’s got a plant room and it’s obviously visual there’s nothing that’s

1:09:21not appealing about this it reminds me in some ways of maybe a storage heater if I just turned it around the other way

1:09:26that looks like a storage we used to have one of those in every room and then I’m thinking about maybe the new build

1:09:32so where they’ve obviously going to be put down the solar panel route this is this is going to be great you can sit in the Loft it’s so easy to but it’s the

1:09:38speed of installation so with the traditional maybe take you several hours really my idea and and probably everyone

1:09:44says the comments is no it’s not but I reckon you can fit in an hour all right some of your guys could do it it’s not a

1:09:51race Keith and when I’m thinking about this system if I’m all in one obviously we’re we’re saving lots of other things

1:09:56and when we’re thinking about saving Not Just Energy money money because we’re fitting less stuff the product is cheap

1:10:03in comparison soor value engineered as I always told value engineered but it is it’s a really really well-built piece of

1:10:10kit it’s beautiful if you open it up okay it’s not spent to be opened up it’s sealed but if you if I show you a side

1:10:15one of them you’ll see how well it’s engineered and it is Plug and Play It’s really simple to use okay um it’s got to

1:10:22and you know and the price you compared to a battery inverter protction gear separate cost is much cheaper okay and

1:10:27when we say G we don’t like to talk about price on eix energy or eix but we some links in the description you go

1:10:33over and discover how fantastic this value is this system here thank you ever so much one thing I have to say it’s not

1:10:41raining the sun is shining we’re all winning I bet my app’s winning have I shown you my app should I show you my

1:10:47app I’ve got an app on this it’s really good and you can see how much energy you produced I filled my battery today believe it or not so that’s my solar

1:10:53array that’s it that’s what’s coming in it’s my family’s just come home you can just see a little bit of I was hovering

1:10:59around 185 because in the other video I showed out to re juice my parasitic GL value engineered love it eventually

1:11:07corrected himself I left it in there it’s worth checking it out I mean we don’t do price okay we never do it have

1:11:12we but again go and check it out I haven’t put it in the link in this video that’s going out on eix energy is

1:11:18episode three and we will put some links in there be a first time for eix in yeah

1:11:23I personally think it’s incredible value you can’t say the price either I know you can’t yeah it’s a great piece of kit

1:11:29it’s you know it’s um

1:11:35cheap for what it is value engine value engineering but it’s the same quality

1:11:41that people expect from sunsync you know everything’s in one box but as Keith said you know you’re not paying for all

1:11:48the the the extra the CA in or isolation it’s all in it’s in one box so it’s it’s

1:11:54nice and easy all the connection connections underneath a push fit so it takes so I mean if people are asking I’m

1:12:00I’m looking at it and I’m going I’d usually have to buy an inverter and I’d have to buy a battery so whatever it’s

1:12:07going to be cheaper than those two if you buy buy them separately and then when you buy them separately as we know

1:12:12we’ve got to put all the isolators in the cables and the connectors and everything else so not all of them

1:12:18though don’t go back on what you said before all of them you got to dream up ones that you think you got to have in

1:12:23there sometimes you’ve got to put extra ones in just that you don’t need just to think you’re being compliant yes yes

1:12:29okay it yeah looks great and yeah again it’s brand new isn’t it so people are

1:12:34thinking why did my plant room not have one because my plant room could accommodate two batteries and an inverter so uh how many have you got one

1:12:42at the minute so the Gap by the side of it for the next one okay it’s coming soon I’ll hear but yeah you can see why

1:12:47they can they can be slipped into a kitchen yeah just slipped in there you wouldn’t notice it and I said I use the the analogy of a storage but that’s

1:12:53about right and we used to seeing you know gas boilers Etc we used to seeing one white box somewhere located or in

1:12:59each room for storage it that’s non offive people asked that can you add multiple ones to the same system yeah so

1:13:05you can you can add you can connect the the lifelinks in parallel uh and the one of the other great features is obviously

1:13:11it’s an Allin one unit so you’ve got the inverter and the battery and a contained unit but if someone does want to expand

1:13:17the battery storage they can use our standard Standalone batteries that we have now um and

1:13:24you’ve just got one um you can uh you can use our standard batteries and they can be connected into the all-in-one

1:13:29unit to increase the the battery storage so yeah still still scalable um yeah

1:13:34yeah so plug and play and that’s yeah just as your system grows or you might be exactly the same as me you get one of

1:13:40those and then all of a sudden you start doing a bit of You Want More Energy you’re going to buy it in and all the rest of it yeah you’re off you’re off

1:13:46and running and it can be used without solar can just be used again as a stand low battery system just use an AC couple

1:13:51you know charging from the Grid at the off peak yeah off P rate so and it really is Plug and Play so the AC connector for the

1:13:58grid connection is in the box so you terminate your grid line into that click it in done in an hour I’ve heard an hour

1:14:07I could probably do it in an hour five minutes yeah maybe we need to put it on the electricians yeah yeah yeah yeah

1:14:13well perhaps that would be the new one you imagine that yeah can you fit this in under an hour it’s outrageous if you’re over an hour you call yourself an

1:14:20electrician it you know you do training I’m sure you teach anyone to be fast you just teach them to do it correctly high

1:14:26quality yeah and that’s what we’re paying for aren’t we in this this sector especially I would suggest it is about

1:14:32quality I mean it’s going to be a lot more expensive than two new downloads and three white plastic sockets people

1:14:37expect a level of installation based on what they’re paying as well but who’ have thought we’d have been filling our houses with down lights right you know

1:14:44only 20 25 years ago we we just had a a little lamp in the middle of the room

1:14:50big lights uh a big light put the big light on yeah strip light in the kitchen now

1:14:55yeah as it’s trying to get itself so so yeah I think there’s that normalization what you know 15 years ago you drove

1:15:03down the street and if you saw solar on the roof that was strange you stopped you looked you wonder what it was

1:15:09there’s now about one and a half million systems installed and we don’t think anything of it and it’s almost become

1:15:14the new normal and I think a lot of this technology as it evolves will become the new normal for for lots of reasons not

1:15:20release the the issues we have with the Y grid connectivity um for for a lot of things

1:15:26we’re wanting to do like EV like heat pumps it’s interesting because you know

1:15:31you do drive down the road and I do it I’m sure other people do especially electrical industry and look at how many roofs and it seems a lot but count the

1:15:37amount that haven’t got it they’re all opportunities now might be opportunities we can’t see because they might only have a battery system but we’re looking

1:15:44at the few still it feels like one and a half million people in my town have got it but that’s not the case is it because

1:15:51it’s we did a we did a survey in the better part of Skipton just as a quick one for a video we’re making and I’d say

1:15:57it’s about 5% if you’re lucky yeah I don’t know what the real don’t there’s any that’s my unofficial walking down

1:16:03the street survey yeah you’re all right in sales all right for I’m just

1:16:09concentrating on my seven megawatt yeah so plenty of opportuni is what would’ say yeah plenty of opportunity there

1:16:15yeah even people with older systems to add batteries in and stuff like that yeah there’s plenty of opportunities a lot of people have said to us didn’t

1:16:21they oh they feel that they’ve missed the opportunity oh I missed the one for for Eevee I feel like I’ve missed the one for Sol ain’t started yet no hasn’t

1:16:28even started so uh yeah that’s uh that’s all good so that was a good catch up with

1:16:33Keith as well he should have been here today shouldn’t he we’ve said before where is he somewhere nice is he somewhere where it’s not raining someone

1:16:39spoted that in the comments is that a Keith thing is it about the rain is it yeah normally when Keith does a video it’s raining uh so the rain follows him

1:16:46round I think was on a sunb it’ probably be raining well he’s in ten Reef so I hope he’s absolutely hammering down who

1:16:52would would have their call center anywhere you’d have it in tener when he out there no doubt keeping up to keeping them up to speed with the latest things

1:16:59in a call center in ten how lovely I think he’s in I think the I think battery can be yeah he’s in there

1:17:05battery can be unplugged inside there so yeah can it be installed outside the

1:17:11LifeLink no no so it’s an interior yeah indoor um have you got systems that can be installed outside yeah so all our

1:17:17standard range of hybrid inverters so every single one that we do is ip65 um we we have two different

1:17:24batteries on our low voltage so we have an ip65 model uh hopefully the one next to your toilet uh and we also have an

1:17:31ip21 so we yeah got a does it need to be ip65 next to your

1:17:38toilet judge everybody on your own accuracy here folks it’s quite a large Target you know get I’m never at home so

1:17:46it won’t make any difference to me so uh yeah suspect Paul Renard’s fitted some of these he’s saying it’s good for off

1:17:51grid sites yeah yeah again with our standard range of hybrid inverter the LifeLink can be used Off Grid it’s got that dedicated UPS low

1:17:59Port so a little bit more for us there off grid exp give me a connected to

1:18:05understand what that is give me give me a practical working example then where are okay thank you very much that’s

1:18:10where we need to go so yeah that’s what we said earlier didn’t we that you know you got that option for those systems to

1:18:16go on there site cabins as well I spoke to somebody recently who specializes in providing generator backup or generator

1:18:23to supplies to to mobile work sites um and they were talking about completely

1:18:28shifting away from G diesel gen sets and just putting containerized storage there

1:18:33taking it back to the yard charging it up dropping it on site and providing the power for the site totally silent and

1:18:39Emissions free at the point of use yeah even like you know Garden out buildings if someone’s got a decent sized Garden

1:18:46having a LifeLink unit in there um you know by the time youve paid for the cost of having your EST wa run out to to

1:18:54garden shed um he said he wasn’t technical I just only said that when I

1:18:59was doing the challenge um so yeah you know you could make your garden building completely off grid you know two or

1:19:05three panels on the roof with one of the LifeLink units um and you you’ve not got the expense of paying for the

1:19:11infrastructure to that Garden building yeah so it’s but but those temporary supplies can be really

1:19:17expensive as well a temporary supply for a building site it’s like Ransom money to get one of those in

1:19:23yeah temporary supply to the grid but also the temporary generator supplies because they’ve all got to be serviced

1:19:28the oil’s got to be disposed of the The Machine’s got to be taken out of service so yeah really interesting stuff

1:19:34happening in in that market in the same way that if we scale it right back down to the small domestic Market as well

1:19:40when you have that instantaneous amount of power available suddenly you might start to overcome some of those previous

1:19:47issues encountered with the grid saying you can’t connect this to the system and the one thing that’s jumping out at us

1:19:53now all the time is heat pumps where people are looking to increase the load on a domestic dwelling by maybe 2 or 3

1:20:00kilow to accommodate a heat pump of a particular size maybe right up to about six kilow or five or six kilowatts for a

1:20:06really large singlephase heat pump and now the grid are saying well we’re not sure we don’t really want that on that

1:20:12particular area in that uh on on our network but how about now we start to think about coupling in um something

1:20:19like the LifeLink to able to give us that ex 3.65 KW of of output and just

1:20:26wiring the heat pump straight through that so now we’re not taking that demand from the grid and we just trickle

1:20:32charged that gently away on a really nice agile tariff uh so we’re also

1:20:37benefiting from that what did we see the rates were there about 7.2 P so even on a really badly

1:20:44installed heat pump um with a scop of three it’s efficiency of 300% we’re

1:20:49going to be talking about something like 2.4 Pence per unit of energy delivered to the home

1:20:56which is about five times cheaper than natural gas that’s where your cost recovery can really start to come in and

1:21:02as the contractors the electrical contractors we’re going to have to get a lot more involved in that sort of side

1:21:08of things when looking at people electrifying the heat in their their homes some great piss in there I mean

1:21:14that section there just got me sitting there buzzing that Standalone building just to give it you know a Life Link and

1:21:20a few panels it just yeah it’s a solution that you wouldn’t even have thought about 15 minutes ago for me but

1:21:27you know a couple you know it wasn’t even on the radar was it to actually make it stand on its own and that’s about so let’s imagine I might know the

1:21:34answer but let’s imagine I don’t so okay just said what happens when the batter is full and I haven’t been to that Standalone building and the sun’s still

1:21:41beating down on the roof what’s happening to that energy then so with solar um if the batter’s full and

1:21:46there’s no export to the grid no cuz we’re not connected to the grid the solar production just it just it dials back so um

1:21:53yeah it’s if the it could be the sunniest day of the year if the system’s got a potential to generate three

1:21:58kilowatt but the load inside that building is only 200 Watts the PV will only generate 200 Watts okay what they

1:22:05need to do G’s go out and buy another air [Laughter] fryer second second episode I don’t know

1:22:12it’s going out yet do we it’s ready and ready to put it out so you know on the eix energy yeah I go into those

1:22:18parasitic loads I’ll show you I’ve changed my habits and stuff like that it’s going to be a good journey this is It’s going be a good journey you’re

1:22:23going to Agile you’re going to have to change it back though yeah well yeah can use still there i’ got two ovens they’re

1:22:28still they’re primed and ready for yeah two ovens you’ve only got one battery yeah I know yeah you can imagine the how

1:22:35how I feel that I can cook yeah cook in two ovens with only one battery if you put a live link and you said you could potentially power maybe you know three

1:22:42air fryers at once yeah love it I like it but no again coupled with because heat pumps coming next we think this is

1:22:49the big thing heat pumps are coming it’s inevitable I know people say won’t eat anything up and you’re living cuz he you

1:22:55should go heat pump next Gary we’ll see we’ll see my pipes we’ve had this conversation yeah my pipes are my

1:23:01biggest problem they bigger job to replace them not that bigger job to replace them what about replacing all

1:23:07the ones in your house you might not need to we could do a separate episode on that yeah but okay okay but they go

1:23:12through they go through web joist and they just lay there so as they hit that pressure need to replace them just do

1:23:18that again just do that the pressure no you know they flick now when they come on you hear them dunk DK you know when I

1:23:25start having them yeah going in there yeah we need to talk okay yeah okay okay

1:23:30this is an electrical channel so PA yeah we’re not heat pumps and and energy

1:23:36storage is is a really really obvious combination that that I think the industry as a whole is missing really um

1:23:44yes there’s some Capital cost to it there’s lots of big players coming into the market though who maybe aren’t even

1:23:49charging people up front for the cost of the heat pump um they’re doing it on a sort of rental basis so um on that basis

1:23:56you might be paying a pound or two extra a month to incorporate a battery you’ll have a fraction of a running cost and

1:24:02it’s all coming down to the electrical contractor on site knowing about these systems working with people like sunsync

1:24:09to make sure they’ve got that tool bag of solutions they can bring to the customer property just stinks of

1:24:15opportunity all the time done every bit of this you should not be anywhere near anything that comes across a counter and

1:24:21he’s covered in white plastic really should you know you should be jumping all over this now the the best and

1:24:26easiest way to save energy has always been staring Us in the face and for the past 20 years obviously we’ve been

1:24:33delving into saving energy but it’s it’s it’s time to revisit something you’re comfortable with G oh lights yes let’s

1:24:39have a look at some lights bit some lead little bit of relaxed while we look at lights well welcome to the Last ChanceDitch the flourescent tubes – New reinvention from Ledvance

1:24:46Saloon why do we call it the Last Chance Saloon well it’s congratulations to anybody who’s made it this far and

1:24:52they’re still looking after installations that have old lighting technology in like the hid lamp like

1:24:58these compact fluorescent lamps and that old favorite the 2D yeah and the

1:25:03advantage of changing over from that Old technology it puts a little bit of extra cash in our pocket so maybe I could buy

1:25:09a drink at your Last Chance Saloon there Gordon well yes but even if you’ve managed to keep on to those you’ve got a

1:25:14massive store of lamps tued away in the corner of your Workshop that excuse is rapidly fading away because obviously

1:25:20the manufacturer of flues tubes has now been banned and those stocks are going to be diminishing you are going to have

1:25:26to finally move over to LED but luckily the good people at ladance have almost

1:25:32reinvented every single lamp class that we’ve had since the dawn of the lighting Edge in an LED format so it is really

1:25:40easy to do those upgrades yeah and we still spot them out and about don’t we we all do that all I noticed they’ve got

1:25:45an old forent tube and all the rest of it but when it comes to lead Vance can you give us a little bit of a history behind the name Gordon okay so lead

1:25:52Vance came around when ozam sold their lamp business to lead Vance but they

1:25:57carried on using the ozam name but it’s just now they finally transitioned so all products now will come branded as

1:26:05lead Vance but in reality you’ve been buying lean products for quite some time

1:26:10but now the packaging reflects it and it’s still that same familiar orange color that goes back to the dawn of

1:26:16lightting time this is my kind of electrical work it is you only have to unscrew the original lamp or pull it out

1:26:21from its con Con in pins and introduce the new energy efficient one and as an electrician I can just walk away knowing

1:26:28that I’ve done my bit for both the environment and putting money back in people’s pockets yeah and it does really

1:26:33fast payback lighting is one of the fastest energy paybacks you can ever have but however what I’m thinking of

1:26:39placing old and inefficient things Gary we’d like to replace you especially now you’ve talked about that complex solar

1:26:47and battery storage I think we’ll cut back to that but let’s not forget this is the easy way to save energy and it’s

1:26:53very cost effective if you got a problem replacing a lamp maybe it’s time that you call the team at ladance sounds a

1:27:00bit like The A Team intro that Gary yeah you wouldn’t be face though would you no you’ve got a whiff a Murdock about you

1:27:05hey I’m crazy you slip back nicely into the world of lightting there didn’t you so

1:27:12uh the easiest way to save energy So oam’s Gone Lance in yes it’s all what Wass now lead Vance okay that’s good

1:27:19well yeah be informed be understanding lamps great w they all look like what we’re so used to seeing but Energy

1:27:26Efficiency and I’m amazed how many lamps are still out there when you look around yeah yeah yeah yeah we we do that often when we’re out don’t we okay so that’s

1:27:33good so we we’re up to speed with that we got some great stuff there have some great questions in where do you want to go next Gordon uh well let’s knock off

1:27:39some of the technical ones that we get a few times of uh obviously a lot of people have got Legacy solar systemsFeed In tariffs

1:27:45yeah and there’s a great one if you’re driving back over that way as you go through con back in the day there must have been a great sales guy cuz there’s

1:27:50a ROV and Bungalows North faing yeah they’ve all they probably are actually

1:27:57they’ve all got solar on so someone probably went in and sold them can we borrow your roof yeah um adding

1:28:04batteries to existing feed in tariff properties yeah so you do it so um back

1:28:10in the day do sound old saying that now you are uh when there was the feeding tariff which used to pay people for

1:28:17everything that the site was generating so not just what it was feeding back into the grid so had a really horrible

1:28:24name because everybody thought it was about what was going back um there was feeding Ty to pay for everything that was generated and then paid for an

1:28:31amount that was exported usually that was deemed half that was exported um

1:28:37loads of those systems still around now there’s probably about 900 950,000 of

1:28:42those systems registered so awful lot out there um and a lot of those people now very Savvy customers earning lots of

1:28:49money Gary at what they’re doing uh now wanting to look at fitting battery storage so on the face of it that’s a

1:28:56really good sensible option but what you’ve got to be really careful of is that bearing in mind that they have a

1:29:02meter fitted next to the inverter which is telling um the customer that’s needed

1:29:09right in this case just got it’s really loud like got one that’s needed uh and that’s

1:29:15counting all the energy that’s pushing back from the inverter up into the house or into the grid and that the bit that

1:29:22you get paid for so then imagine a scenario where what we do is we we decide to maybe either change the

1:29:28inverter or somehow configure the batteries onto the side of the inverter

1:29:33that’s Downstream from that meter so now at that point what could happen using

1:29:38something like agile is you then start charging up uh the battery storage from

1:29:44an off peak tariff and the electricity is going so of the reverse through the the generation meter and then when you

1:29:51discharge those batteries now it’s going to start clocking that meter up and

1:29:56imagining that you’re producing a a feeding tariff eligible payment which

1:30:02obviously they’re not very keen on people doing because in Winter and I’m not suggesting you do this going uh with

1:30:07a feed in tariff installation you could just sit there and just charge it up all day they’ve no idea how much Energy’s

1:30:12gone that way into the batteries and then you can discharge it and get paid what you know certainly a lot of people

1:30:19are getting sort of 55 65 p a unit now if they’re in at the very very early

1:30:24stage so one way of getting around that is by doing something called net

1:30:29metering um and if people don’t want to do just a standalone inverter and Battery setup you could have a net meter

1:30:36so you swap out that meter that’s being installed and now you have a meter that’s capable of measuring the energy

1:30:43both directions so both going up and when it’s feeding the battery storage and what’s being exported back one’s

1:30:50deducted from the other and and then the the net figure is the one that you use for your feeding tariff payments but you

1:30:56do have to get in touch with your feeding tariff provider uh make sure that they’re happy with any proposed

1:31:02alterations and if you follow one of the standard Arrangements which this is probably the most common uh within the

1:31:08off gem guidance you shouldn’t have any problems what what about sorry to interrupt um you’ve got your traditional

1:31:14string inverter where they getting their feeding tariff and then they’ve got the generation meter What if after that on

1:31:21the AC line that was chopped essentially and AC coupled into an additional

1:31:26inverter so so it’s all relative to where the generation meter is so if that’s between the generation meter and

1:31:34the distribution board okay i’ I’d be thinking a little bit about the load on the cable and and the current flow and

1:31:41the protection so let’s imagine it’s actually con connected back at the distribution board um there’s still a

1:31:47right for them to be made aware of it because it’s still a change in use but actually that would say sale straight through and and shouldn’t present any

1:31:54problems at all but that is then another inverter and the thing that people really struggle with at that point is

1:32:01it’s not all on one app or one means of being able to see exactly what’s going

1:32:06on when you do that as well you usually end up with multiple CT clamps and if anybody’s ever come along an

1:32:12installation where you’ve got an original PV system you’ve got an EV charger you’ve got a uh another AC thing

1:32:20you suddenly have all these CT clamps together and I think a lot of people don’t realize that that can actually cause some um interference issues on its

1:32:28own just having multiple CT clamps on the same line so my recommendation is always try and go net metering uh and

1:32:35and if you can get it harmonized around one ecosystem like the Sun s Camp uh app

1:32:41so you can see what’s going on across the whole setup yeah good information yeah obviously we’re saying you’ve got

1:32:48to tell them what if someone just put I’m just saying that there might be some from

1:32:53Liverpool sometimes sometimes you get some dishonest yeah you get some dishonest I mean there’s people who fit

1:32:59s of stuff in and don’t even register it no yeah apparently same happens on EV

1:33:04charges I’ve heard just fit these things and don’t fill in the paperwork would you believe that come what the chances

1:33:11so does anyone actually ever check those meters so what what they will do is if that starts to um overclock too much

1:33:18they know what everybody should be generating over a particular period so at some point it’ll get flagged um back

1:33:26in the early days of feeding tariff we we do know some people who created AC to

1:33:31DC Transformers Right and started if as it were overclocking their um uh their systems

1:33:39by just wiring that up into a spare mppt on the underside of the inverter um but the energy companies did get get

1:33:45switched onto that quite quickly in the same way as they would do um with normal domestic usage they know what the

1:33:51average consumption profile is if it goes up usually there’s two or three people will come around and check and

1:33:57see what’s being grown in The Loft you’re right they do cuz I’m I’m on feeding tariff for biomass and as soon

1:34:03if you put a reading in it out of kilter with previous years you get a lead box you have to you have to fess up and

1:34:09explain why it might be a little bit different it’s it’s been a bit colder yeah yeah working at home a bit more

1:34:16than I was last year that was the one that went in this oh right okay oh yeah okay yeah so they do they do question it

1:34:21but I guess yeah if you if you so so okay this is again for Gary yeah so I haven’t told or have I told my Energy

1:34:28company would he have done that through MCS should have done yeah he’s done the MCS form so my Energy company be aware

1:34:35that my bill might come down so they won’t be thinking Gary’s fiddle in the meter yeah so so they they because

1:34:43there’s no regulated payment structure going to at the moment because you’re not on feeding tariff they probably

1:34:48won’t be too concerned what you might see though going going into the winter months is they’ll want to actually have

1:34:54um more in terms of a standing order a direct debit for that energy bill um going forwards then you’ll actually end

1:35:01up having especially if you start charging off peak you can reduce that bill to well you’ve seen around about a

1:35:08third or a quarter of of what you might expect okay depends where I’m in the series whether I’ll get to it this winter yeah that’s where we’re going to

1:35:14get to yeah okay so yeah okay so they can yeah see that makes sense don’t it I want to see how many kilowatt hours I’ve

1:35:20actually used that’s the next thing to actually not not look at price prices are relevant to it it’s the number of

1:35:25kilowatt hours you reduce comparison November last year to November this year see what the impact is it’s good any

1:35:31other great questions coming through there before we move on uh what’s so it’s interesting there’s 950,000 feed in

1:35:36tariff in store that’s a good opportunity for you there you go you should be out Keith I think Keith’s already spoted it he’s he’s expecting

1:35:43the order for the seven megaw of storage in the Craven District by Monday and

1:35:49they’ll need some more trained installers though so let’s not forget that that is that is

1:35:54the just just to keep people on and interested talking about trained installers some part of the show maybe

1:36:01towards the end we’re going to talk about training maybe people with the the skills to do Roofing and solar we’re

1:36:08going to we’re going to leave it a we’re going to leave it a fer on that for a minute there so if you think it’s bad

1:36:13enough they do a six week course to become electrician you see how quickly you can get roffers to do solar down to

1:36:18that later on in the show okay uh another g99 so how does g99 work with

1:36:24solar and batteries okay I’ll take that one yeah

1:36:29yeah so on the g99 it’s all about asking the dno for permission uh whether you can have a certain capacity within the

1:36:36building um allowed and whether it works within the grid so for instance if it’s

1:36:41on a g98 if it’s 3.6 kilow or under it’s absolutely fine don’t need to sign uh

1:36:47it’s a sign and notify mhm uh rather than ask for permission and be allowed but anything over 3.6 is

1:36:55where g99 comes in and you have to ask for permission first from the dno and they will then tell you yeah within the

1:37:01network that we have available we’re happy for you to have 5 kilow on the property or 8 kilowatt on the property

1:37:08Etc um so that’s what g99 is what is a

1:37:13specific question on it when obviously had batteries to it so say you’ve got a g99 approval for an 8 kilowatt system

1:37:19yeah and you add in it depends how batter it depends how the batteries are connected so if you added if you had

1:37:24approval for an 8 Kow sunsync inverter and had no batteries then you could connect batteries directly to the 8

1:37:30kwatt and not have to apply for any other certificate from the g99 if you

1:37:35had a system in already that was a string inverter and then you wanted to fit batteries you would then have to add

1:37:41another inverter in and it’s the inverter that the dno is bothered about so it’s the inverter size they want to

1:37:47know how much you can bring in and out into the house in AC right so if you had adjust the battery store separate an AC

1:37:53couple battery in the so you had eight in theory the inverter could pump out 8 Kow yes and then you could pump out

1:37:59another five or six kilow from the battery then you’re breaking the g99 yeah your separate systems like I say if

1:38:05you had an 8 Kow string inverter no batteries connected at all connected and it was approved for 8 kwatt and then you

1:38:11had you wanted 5 Kow AC coupled or 5 Kow battery you’d have to have another inverter installed and then that 5 K

1:38:20inverter that you’ve got installed there would then need approval as well as it’s another source essentially eight and

1:38:26five you you’re having a total of 13 kilow in the house rather than eight right now we spoke to an installer that

1:38:32that did your roof and he’s he obviously goes on the new hous in the states and starts mopping up these uh installations

1:38:40and oh they’ve just obviously as we know when someone gets Sol they bore the pants off the neighbors and stuff like

1:38:45that with the app leaning over the you’re lucky you don’t talk to your neighbor he’s got Sol and then obviously

1:38:50the next house gets it and the next House are there instances where people are running where they’re quickly

1:38:56running out of Capac that’s interesting because Gary just says there that his neighbor has got solar yeah um that

1:39:02would automatically take you outside of the dno install and notify because what

1:39:08g98 actually says is if there are uh generators small scaled embedded generators within close geographical

1:39:16proximity which is a really broad term but essentially what they’re trying to get at is is um connected to the same

1:39:23Transformer in the same area um then that’s something that they will probably want to know about first before you

1:39:31connect now the good news is although that sounds really complicated um there’s a lot of DN dsos out there who

1:39:38now do this on a FastTrack basis the bad news is that lots of DN do it

1:39:44differently so it can be a bit of a headache if you’re Contracting within several DSO areas to to actually get

1:39:51your head around what each one of them may or may not allow so I should have asked permission even just to put my

1:39:57small one on quite probably just depending what the uh grid arrangement I

1:40:03did one it’s it’s one that that is is frequently not fully comprehended everybody just automatically goes to the

1:40:103.68 16 amps per phase uh and that’s fantastic um but there’s other things as

1:40:16well if you look down the really complicated D DN DSO flow chart it’s like has is there EV charges there Etc

1:40:23there’s all sorts of reasons which may require prior approval the even better news apart from the FastTrack stuff is

1:40:31that the ENA the energy Network Association who are the people the sort of trade body for all of the dsos in the

1:40:38country they’re introducing a digital platform which is being piloted this December so coming into sort of the

1:40:45start or middle of next year as an installer you’ll have access to to various partner platforms which allow

1:40:52you to go on and go this is Gary’s house I want to put this on can I do it and it’ll come back and tell you instantly

1:40:58whether you can or can’t and what level of connection you’ll be permitted to have well that’s that’s brand new news

1:41:04to me was that new to you uh the some there’s one Northern power grid have got quite a good digital platform okay

1:41:10basically just says no everything you can do a um on the

1:41:16Northern power grid one we did it in our cable connection scanning video you can log in tell you where the cables on you

1:41:22can draw in where you want to do a new connection and it tells you what cables are loaded up in the area so you can

1:41:27estimate to get to a green cable it’ll cost you £700,000 and you just put a you

1:41:33put a battery in that’s why there’s going to be seven batteries down here by Monday the level of detail they going into is actually going to capture an EV

1:41:39charger of X and a heat pump of Y and sometimes it’s not just looking at the

1:41:45the maximum demand sometimes it’s looking at the associated harmonics that come from some of those digital

1:41:51devices connected to get on his we did we did that when we didn’t get any tools out so

1:41:58just go back to sha Sha’s doing a very large estate in the South okay maybe in around the London area and he’s he’s

1:42:04around this CAC or large cisac they’ve got some very large properties over 20 panels under g99 and and he’s going in

1:42:11and like he said he does one he does an x one he’s done five six in this coldest sacki area he said I’m concerned that

1:42:18the last person to say the last three they’ll actually say you know all of a sudden now if everybody was out some was

1:42:26beating down everybody was exporting that the actual Transformer in reverse

1:42:31the windings couldn’t take the actual uh load that was being put on in the opposite direction so he says every time

1:42:38I put one in now the more and more I get he says I’m waiting for that one where they say no I got to go back to a customer and say no you can’t because of

1:42:44OB see yeah that so Pro probably James should have gone there first and sold a system to everybody in the cuac first

1:42:52and then they could have worked out exactly what the overall connection was with a centralized storage with centralized storage container he can do

1:42:59that in a day communial area there’s a somewhere for the children to play large steel play I hear with security as well

1:43:07yeah so so we can fit a slide to but but there something I

1:43:13comprehended until he said it so once he said that I was like well makes logical sense now doesn’t it that you know you’ve got all of these large power

1:43:19plants it’s someone’s going to be unhappy some so well so I’m thinking there Gary i’ be thinking of the future

1:43:25you’d be thinking you’ve just moved into a new house I’ll just bang that application in anywh and not fit the stuff yeah be the yeah yeah yeah so it

1:43:34can be a real issue I mean a new housing estate that should be taken care of by whoever’s doing the grid connection

1:43:40application it’s fair ID or or an IDE know I I mean they

1:43:46should be aware of what’s being connected should be the operative word there but yeah and the same as when

1:43:52you’re applying for a connection for an upgraded Supply at some point that balance will be tipped and and that

1:43:58person the nth person is now going to have to pay for a substantial grid upgrade to get what they need unless

1:44:06perhaps they start looking at trickle charging battery storage systems and nice Segway there we go yeah that’s good

1:44:14okay been been away a you recently I have just changing the changing the tone of this yeah little I have a littleGordon’s been on holiday (again) What did he find?

1:44:19holiday snap obvious holiday what do we get up to on holiday I was to stick my head in a local consumer unit so I was

1:44:25back in uh back in Italy and found a little Innovation so let’s have a look

1:44:31oh no so well just hold this Photograph here for a minute was it cold in it’s got whiff of whiff of AI about this

1:44:36hasn’t it because the color palette is amazing we’ve got a dark gray door in the background got a dark gray jacket on

1:44:42the gentleman got a light gray to the wall we got a light gray t-shirt and haircut as well he light gray the same

1:44:48as the breakers yeah so it’s it’s yeah it’s very on Trend that picture you wore colors to match the fabric of the

1:44:54building I love it yeah so what were you fiddling around in there young man just a little consumer well I found actually

1:45:00in one in one Bard this little thing here called a pry cam oh yeah the holiday wasn’t in the

1:45:08bathroom area was it this PR cam no but cams not his camera connected Asset Management so this is I think this a

1:45:15great little idea um so this is a monitor that sits in the in the consume unit and mon has all the electrical

1:45:21parameters to do with the installation okay um and I thought the interesting one if you flip to the next one please

1:45:28scan that QR code please SC that QR code please SC that QR code they might be a to hack into your your own system y uh

1:45:34so this the sort of things it it measures so obviously powers and easy one things like that but it’ll give you a measurement remotely of things like

1:45:40Earth leakage uh the leakage current okay uh Earthly resistance because

1:45:46obviously most of ital is on TT systems things that’s that’s a that

1:45:52could be a useful thing isn’t it temperature down the bottom there device temperature okay so so will that monitor

1:45:58the the when you say device is that like the whole enclosure or it’s individual device the temperature in the enclosure so there’s all these things we’ve been

1:46:03worried about you know about obviously fully loaded Breakers and dissipation of heat and that so this device here could

1:46:10look as if it’s a little bit of an intelligence how much is that going to cost us about 200 when I looked at there air fryer or yeah air fryer or a fifth

1:46:18of a battery well not quite mine was a little bit deer than that yeah so uh that’s that’s clever I like that yeah so

1:46:25what do people think about that non ABB device fitted inside an ABB enclosure

1:46:31can we ask them in the comments and see what they say that’ll be that’ll be straight in there I mean someone’s already spotted it’s a type AC rcd which

1:46:37you still can use in Italy that’s the thing and then obviously people are beat up RC well no it’s all yeah they’re all

1:46:44um you can do anything out there anything in there have you seen some of those boards

1:46:51there he’s out in Italy now yeah doing these old pizzas but is cuz obviously

1:46:56few things that happen in Italy they’ve got really skinny power supply so you’ve only got three or six kilow as the

1:47:01standard Supply so they used to just things tripping off everywhere so getting a little bit of an alert that

1:47:07you’re up at a power limit or you’re approaching a power limit can help but I think obviously we’re starting to worry

1:47:13about pen faults here yeah you think that that would spot one would it because he monitoring the current in the neutral in the earth it’ll measure the

1:47:19difference between the um the CPC and the neutral will do so they give you

1:47:25early warning that you maybe you got a bit of a problem all these EV charger ones most of them are doing that aren they they’re measuring the difference

1:47:30they’re measuring for high and low voltage so yeah yeah so there’s there’s a debate isn’t it people saying you should fit a pen F at the origin of a

1:47:37supply I’m up for that and um that company’s just um launched one haven’t

1:47:42they um Matty have done a unit Haven little monitor your from inside of the

1:47:47meter box yeah yeah that’s what it should be yeah yeah it should you know if we we’re solving their problem their

1:47:54kit should be in their box yeah unless the door blows off and it’s our box different story okay yeah that’s good so

1:47:59that was a little bit of innovation you found bit of innovation we’ll see see what people think we might try and get one in yeah uh the only problem is I

1:48:05think it’s only rated at 40 amps because the suppli is absolutely na that’s probably why right uh mix and

1:48:13match isn’t a problem in Australia either so there we go apparently but they’ve got spiders

1:48:19things like that right so I’ll could do with a little bit of little bit of a break here and before

1:48:25we your segment’s actually next young man I’ll give you a little bit time to think about maybe your choices in life

1:48:31and how you spent time in front of maybe people who install slate and ceramic and

1:48:37maybe clay tiles for a living that was a that was a workshop we did wasn’t it weekend we’ll get yeah I wouldn’t have

1:48:43thought it took a weekend but we’ll come back to that but we we’ we’ve cashed in we see a lot of people coming through

1:48:49without much say thought we’ve got for our for our bin is it time to find out

1:48:55first of all I just want to say first of all we need to segue in with a little bit of sweeping up okay so have we gotJames sweeps up

1:49:02any footage of anyone sweeping up there it is oh we all say the slowest sweeps up it’s a

1:49:08fix fix my wife’s going to uh my wife’s going to see this and

1:49:14U yeah you do look I never ask you to sweep up again at home so uh so obviously you and the Bim

1:49:22was empty I think I think you heard it a lot of distance before you hit the bottom there was a thud there was a thud

1:49:27because we’ve empted it yeah so that means we’ve got a we got to come up with a segment for Joe this week so Joe’s

1:49:33been on interviewing so let’s cut to the footage who’s turning up at eix today looks like it’s the team from GreenWe’ve cashed our greencable bin

1:49:39cable come to collect our bin so quick before they get here better collect that last little bit so we can make sure to fill it up to the top so let’s go and

1:49:45meet who’s turned up so I’m here with Ed from Green cable and it is time for the eix team to cash

1:49:51in on this bin for our Channel viewers that don’t know what this bin is Ed can you just give us a brief summary of what it does green cable is basically a

1:49:58scrapyard on wheels for trade professionals electricians notably are really quite guilty of leaving scrap

1:50:04Cable in skips or on site or just throwing it away all together and obviously there’s valuable material in

1:50:10there notably copper and we saw a great opportunity to start helping them recycle it but also cashing on it

1:50:17because it is obviously worth decent amount of money yeah so we it’s a brilliant idea here at eix we absolutely love watching people tidy up their cable

1:50:24after completing the challenge Ro and put it in here obviously our cor viewers are electricians would you say they are

1:50:29your biggest customers so electricians were our main focus originally however in the last 18 months we’ve really

1:50:34Diversified with plumbers heating Engineers manufacturers and now most recently the BBC and the NHS it’s great

1:50:42how you branching out into different sectors whereabouts are you based and how far do you actually cover so we’re based in canuk just outside Birmingham

1:50:49and we started out covering around a 20 km radius when we first started the business a few years ago but we’re now

1:50:55reaching around 80 to 100 kilometers in total from there so we’re now reaching as far north as Manchester Liverpool and

1:51:03surrounding areas across to Nottingham and down to Leicester and then also

1:51:09we’re covering the north cot world so chelham and siren cester along there so

1:51:15really quite a large area what’s important to us right now is if you’re interested in using the service and we

1:51:20can’t get to you please still sign up because wherever there’s a waiting list we will then expand into there once the

1:51:25demand is present that is quite a big growth in range considering you’ve only been operating for two years let’s say

1:51:30that I’m an electrician Who currently takes my scub to the scrapyard what would make me make the switch to your

1:51:36service good question so you already know there’s value in the cable you want to be responsible and make sure it gets

1:51:41recycled green cable is a really convenient service and obviously enables you as an electrician to store the scrap

1:51:48safely and cleanly at home or work but as well as that it’s also factoring in your time now our prices are incredibly

1:51:56competitive in many cases we actually pay as much if not more than Regional scrapyards believe it or not there’s a

1:52:01great statistic where we’ve generally worked out that in cases where scrapyards pay a little bit more than us

1:52:07the price difference of an average bin for an electrician is about 8 to 14 now

1:52:14when you factor in the time it takes to load that material into the van go down to the scrapyard

1:52:20wait in a queue get served come back maybe it’s a couple of hours I don’t know what the average hourly rate is for

1:52:25an electrician but I’m sure it’s more than that so after that I’m sure quite a lot of you are enticed to sign up to receive one of these bins let’s say that

1:52:32I wanted to sign up is there a minimum frequency that you come to collect these yeah so we want to encourage as many

1:52:37customers as possible to start using the service and to receive one of our bins generally if you’re not filling a bin

1:52:42within a year ideally twice a year or more is what we recommend for new customers who want to start using the

1:52:49service however I would say that a number of customers have signed up received their bin and expected to only

1:52:54fit it around once a year the funny thing about these bins that does change the fundamental habits of trade

1:53:01professionals because as soon as you know you’ve got effectively a cash machine at home that all you need to do

1:53:06is fill it up with nonfer scrap cable Copper Brass whatever it might be you

1:53:11know it’s going to generate money for you and you suddenly start becoming magnetized to waste on site and out and

1:53:16about dayto day yeah funny you mentioned cash because I think it might be time to take a look in arbin we’ve had it for

1:53:21about 5 months so should we step up and have a look how much we’ve got let’s do it okay let’s open it up and see what we’ve got excellent so first of all big

1:53:30green tick F filling it to the top that is a prerequisite for using our collection service obviously we need to

1:53:36make sure the value is there to make it worthwhile for us to come out and collect so well done on that now I see a

1:53:42variety of cable types in here generally multicore so falling under the household

1:53:47cable category and then paying accordingly for that yeah obviously we can see some armored in here and what

1:53:54we’d do with that is we’d pull it out when we take it out to the vehicle and we’ weigh that separately because it

1:53:59carries a lower price than the standard cable okay so you’d recommend that people separate that beforehand yeah it

1:54:04helps our team a lot if the armored is maybe in a pile or reel next to the bin

1:54:09or um separated somehow in the bin uh itself then that’s fine because some

1:54:14customers will put armored in the bottom and then household and other cable types in the top no obligation at the end of

1:54:21the day for us it’s only an extra couple of minutes and if it’s easier for you as the customer just to bung it all in

1:54:26absolutely fine should we get on the van and see how much it’s worth let’s do it let’s go so what we do now is we get

1:54:32your bin onto our vehicle to weigh the material any idea what you think this is

1:54:37weighing in at my guess will be about 55 kg right okay I’ll tell you an interesting game we play with customers

1:54:42the customer makes a guess of what it weighs however many kilos they are off they have to do the same number of press

1:54:49UPS okay you look like a fit bloke I’m sure you can manage it would you like to change your guess I think I’m going to stick with my 55 yeah okay I’ll take

1:54:56part in this game I’m going to go 65 let’s see how we got on so we’ll just turn the scales on so

1:55:02don’t be alarmed the bin weighs 10 kilos and we take that off the total weight

1:55:08the number is showing what Joe 87 at the moment therefore minus the 10 is 77 and

1:55:13what was your guess 55 now my math isn’t the best but I believe that totals 22

1:55:20press UPS it is indeed and I’m not very happy about that but a promise so after the bad news of having to do 22 press

1:55:26UPS I think I’m now ready for the good news so let’s find out how much our scrap is worth so Joe to confirm we have

1:55:3277 kilos of household Cable in there correct and I had a little ring around

1:55:38the regional scrapyards and metal Merchants today to see what they’re paying for this you are getting exactly the same price collected so you don’t

1:55:45have to faf around getting it into your van and getting down to the yard and today’s price is is drum roll

1:55:51please £ 13860 so that’s your bin all emptied and

1:55:59ready to go again to fill whenever you’re ready whilst the rest of the team force over what to do with the money I

1:56:05wed by to Edge and got ready to fill our bin for the next collection if you want to sign up for this amazing service check the link in the description but

1:56:11for now that’s all from me well I think he done another

1:56:17brilliant S I think we’d bring him in cuz I think he can lie tell us who’s won the prize look I’ve left him all he he

1:56:23got his mic turned on he’s fapping around in the corner going to bring yourself in I will bring myself in yeah

1:56:29so it is time to um to get the prize out so the weight of the C was I believe 77

1:56:35kg but the monetary value of that was 13860 and the closest it’s him again

1:56:42it’s Alan Chan 130 13550 so well done to you Al we’ll send

1:56:47you your wo probes must have about 15 of your addresses in the form by now so don’t bother with that I’ll find you

1:56:54anyway oh bless him okay so yeah we see him at shows and we’ve met him we spent time with him and is a Serial winner

1:57:00that’s what we want regular viewers coming in again if you’re a regular viewer and you’ve been commenting there is a fantastic chance you get a shout

1:57:07out in the register and you may even appear in the end credits and now you’ve run out of Road okay young man so I’m aRoofers doing electrical work?

1:57:15nor upset somebody yeah I’m a roofer maybe a little bit of tarmacking the weekend as well throw a few white few

1:57:22white pebbles in there give it a bit of dressing yeah white gold bit upvc clean your gut as well I’m up there 100% yeah

1:57:29I can do all of that I’ll come and see Gtech training how long before you make me into an electrician how long as them

1:57:34roof is taking to get through oh electrician what kind of electrician well they’re going to fit solar panels there must be electricians roofers are

1:57:40already fitting solar panels and they have been doing for years and years and years so that’s what you’re digging what

1:57:46we’re trying to do is to make life easier for our electrician friends because you said earlier on quite

1:57:52rightly electricians don’t want to be up on the roof right that’s not their primary skill set what what who should

1:57:59be up on the roof is the roofers totally agree but there has to be an element of electrical work that they’re going to do

1:58:04now that might only extend to plugging a few cables together but remember that

1:58:10when the sun’s out the modules are live live right so they’re going to be live working so we’ve got to give them a bit

1:58:16of a comprehension about what’s going on and make sure they can do that very limited amount of plug andplay work in a

1:58:23safe as possible way and do they when when we did my one they they brought the

1:58:29cables around in a certain pattern they tried to sort of semi explain that while I was watching tiles drop off and having

1:58:35all kinds of customer moments is that something else you’d explain would you maybe even stretch to an mc4 connector

1:58:41AB yeah so what we’re trying to do um with with the roofing fraternity that we’re seeing is to make sure that they

1:58:47understand a bit about the system not electricians at all but they understand enough to know what’s going on with the

1:58:53system they know how the cable should be uh rooted and how the cable should be

1:58:59mounted um and also how that then gets through the roof into the Loft space or

1:59:04down the side of the building ready for the electrician then to make those all important final connections okay and is

1:59:11this looking to try and get an ECS card is there some sort of minimum requirement is there going to be something I need to get on site with or

1:59:17is this just to to skill people who are already skilled yes that’s a really really interesting question I think the

1:59:24industry hasn’t quite got to grips with the fact that at the moment there’s lots of roofers out there who who are doing

1:59:30electrical work on new build sites um yes it would be ideal if we could get

1:59:35them some kind of skills card because as soon as the the local Savvy site Foreman

1:59:41realizes that they’re going to go hang on a minute I’ve got a person here doing electrical work and they haven’t got a

1:59:47competency card for for doing that so yeah absolutely we we’re working towards that to try and get that but it’s

1:59:53realistically only talking about those very simple connections Up on the Roof trying to make sure they leave that safe

2:00:00for our electrician friends to go and do the final connections and I can see that only being a good thing I’m a bit big

2:00:05advocator of the roofs done by roofer okay I understand we can up skill ourselves in Reverse I don’t think we’ve

2:00:11been on any Roofing courses there’s no ECS card for electrician turned roofer

2:00:17so if we reverse the process round we’re quite happy we’re having a dible but when we’re in the electrical industry and we watch a roof for maybe making

2:00:24pushing some connectors together or rooting some cables we start screaming and roaring it’s just the reverse

2:00:29process I think it’s only good and it’s no no different to any other kind of domestic work where perhaps we might

2:00:36have taken too much of a Timber out of a particular joist run or or a stud wall

2:00:42uh and we should then be asking our carpentry friends to come and uh come and make that good shouldn’t we so uh

2:00:49we’re just trying to follow that path through uh a bit further to its natural progression but hey you know the

2:00:54electricians are really good at doing the electrical work um don’t want to be up on the roof most of the time if they

2:01:00do want to fit solar as well as a battery storage then let’s try and make sure that both halves of that team can

2:01:06work together coherently totally agree I think it’s a great idea so I mean I’ve played it in as a massive negative

2:01:12absolutely not no 100% I think the right people should be doing the right jobs well rofer doing an MC for what could

2:01:19possibly go wrong well we’ve seen plenty of electricians do mc4 connectors and things possibly go wrong I don’t think

2:01:25we said that I think we said pushing connectors together and rooting cables I don’t think we we said anything there

2:01:31about making cables off did we no no at all you so I just want to clarify that because you didn’t and I didn’t so okay

2:01:38and again that that brings up a nice one we did a lovely little short we haven’t done a full review on it yet you Ed some sort of talk wrench on the back of that

2:01:45mc4 connect what made you in any way side Gordon rout to start putting talk

2:01:51on it yeah following the manufacturers instructions what are what are the chances is that why we had to buy that because the manufactur instructors of

2:01:57mc4 connectors stated was it 3.2 or 3.5 I can’t remember 3.2 3.25 oh was it okay

2:02:04of talk on the back of there on the back not on the back of the connector so that wasn’t something you randomly did it was

2:02:09something obviously we started looking at mc4 connectors and then suddenly you’re in a world of of interesting

2:02:15places so obviously the regulation there got to be the same manufacturers or type

2:02:20testers type tested to 50521 Y which nobody does connected together allegedly

2:02:26allegedly okay no no I don’t think you can find aw my

2:02:33allegedly take it back went through the loop on on4 connectors and interesting stoutly do this little depth gauge so

2:02:40you can check that the crimp pin is latched into the connector housing as it should be makes a nice click yeah um and

2:02:47the interesting thing when when you take there depth gauge and start using it on other

2:02:52connectors on one SPC connect wouldn’t even go in the connector all right so

2:02:58you start think well they’re not really compatible are they so and um so I thought right so then we started speaking to stably and St oh we’ve just

2:03:05brought out this new tool kit a year ago okay and then I waited nine months and

2:03:10then finally managed to extract one out of someone it was yeah they’re not cheap let’s put it that way couple of air

2:03:16fries couple of air an air fry and a half I think or 10 air fries if you go to Costco in

2:03:22the com Costco I’m a m yeah mine’s pretty deep mine’s a good one good one

2:03:28well you could you could use it you can’t do mc4 connectors on it anyway so but the instructions yeah they’re very clear proper cable lens proper crimper

2:03:36um and then the uh click it in together check with the depth gauge and tighten it up with the torque calibrated backnut

2:03:43and as a manufacturer you’re always stating follow the manufacturer’s instructions we’ve just had our conversation there where I tried to give

2:03:48you a bit a bit of banter about our roofers and obviously you’ve taken a little bit of stick of using a torque

2:03:53setting on the back of an mc4 connector which links me nicely into the segment

2:03:59that we’re going to do from Joe Hammond oh oh yes which is where we get a chance to answer back to some of these comments

2:04:05and we’re going to leave it to Joe and he did it last time out it was hilarious so we’d like to go back in and we’d like

2:04:11to see what it is comments corner I could remember the first word let’s joinComments Corner

2:04:17Joe [Music]

2:04:24hello and welcome to comments Corner the section where I get to look at some of the best and worst comments from the

2:04:29last few weeks from you our viewers and keyboard Warriors and you’ve not disappointed with some amazing comments

2:04:35coming in which not only raises debate but also raises a few eyebrows as well

2:04:40remember it’s these comments that keep us going so if you’ve got a question make sure you fire over to us and we’ll

2:04:46do what we can to get an answer to you it’s been another busy week for us at eix with the solar and storage event at

2:04:52the NEC Birmingham Gordon finding a rooftop location with the dynamic firework that is Griff Thomas from Gtech

2:04:59and Joe getting into a tight squeeze in some trunking but we start with a short we put out on Facebook and this was eix

2:05:04own Rick making off some micc or pyro cable to be terminated into

2:05:10a fireproof isolator well our International viewers hit this one up with Jeffrey G Holly saying what is this

2:05:16for we don’t go through this type of hell in the USA I can’t do an American accent but the childish British humor

2:05:23won the round with Dave M commenting to Mega The Apprentice at the other end well if we’re splitting hairs Dave

2:05:31it’s insulation resistance but still let’s not Mega anyone shall we Tony

2:05:37Elmore says wrong oh why is it wrong Tony

2:05:43why why ton tell tell us tell us we released our first AI instructional

2:05:49video with AI Joe taking the lead and you were quite cross at Fu manu5 LTR a

2:05:57bit disappointed this used AI to produce a video normally well-presented videos by actual humans and at M1 lad

2:06:0781 I’ve seen that guy advertise dubious doorbell cameras nothing but a scam

2:06:13shame eix did not use a real person to do the voice over Gordon on holiday is

2:06:19if he has he’s not invited anyone else at Abdul 6930 came in with I’m stalking

2:06:24Joe Robinson on eix electrical news weekly okay uh but the final comment

2:06:31from at cyprian B12 guys I personally think that you should advise us how to

2:06:36do the best not the law requires that said I worked personally as a pat tester

2:06:42for seven years and replaced more than 3,000 plugs what you worked as a pat tester for seven

2:06:49years seven you poor poor thing down at solar and storage we had Gordon do his

2:06:55best Paul Hogan when discussing the Swiss army knife of batteries and Gordon fresh back from his holidays did a

2:07:01sterling job to explain how the One megawatt battery works with at Billy Lions 1680 saying brilliantly explained

2:07:08as usual and at Colin Richardson nice more expensive than my house but one megawatt hour should be enough storage

2:07:15for at least one of my daughter’s showers and at Andrew Watson 3576 coming

2:07:20in with I bet Gary was draing over them thinking how many meals he can air fry with just one charge and yes Andrew we

2:07:29evidently didn’t hear the last of it finally we put a short out showcasing our new toy a py insulation kit which

2:07:36includes Cutters crimpers and torque ratchets perhaps though the editing was a little bit intense with at Pedro

2:07:443474 this video gives me a panic attack and at rebelo on claiming the editing

2:07:52style kills kittens well I can assure you no kittens that I’m aware of have been killed in

2:07:58the making of our videos that’s it this week from comments

2:08:04corner be sure to keep finding those comments and who knows you might even get yourself a mention but until next

2:08:10time it’s teraa [Music] [Applause]

2:08:16[Music] now [Music]

2:08:21it’s an absolute pleasure to have him as part of the team he brings something completely different we look forward to

2:08:27every video that he drops and he’s just dropped one recently on uh wbox EV charger isn’t he it is yeah it’s worth a

2:08:33look at yeah CU 100% brings up the dreaded looped Supply at the end of there the ending away but it’s

2:08:39definitely worth watching it so from electrical aspect as much as the comedy elements that Joe brings to all of his

2:08:45along with his facial expressions and his quick wit absolutely fantastic fantastic so thank you very much for Joe for bringing that one in today weren’t

2:08:50even expecting it was it it was a surprise oh yeah I’ve done one and he so he just launched that one in at us as well so that is brilliant so just to

2:08:58give people an update where we are before we do the register College connections obviously I’m out and about all in the month of November I’m going

2:09:04down to the the big South I’m going down to Devon to do a couple um next week and then after that I’m moving further north

2:09:11so I’ve got four College connections this week and we’d like to thank everyone that does support those College connection Road shows letting me get out

2:09:17to colleges and we’ve discussed it over dinner didn’t we how important it is to support the industry and I have asked

2:09:22any if he is on I’ve asked Keith whether he’d support us as being our solar and Battery installer supporter moving into

2:09:292024 so I slid that one is he still on Keith not that was every week now it’s

2:09:34who does jaw look like this time is that Tom Carriage before his diet

2:09:41right good I thought you grow more hair after you die so obviously we got one of those let’s let’s let’s go over and see

2:09:48if we got any winners over there so we must have a GT time winner that’s not going to get a prize but going to get the name shouted out next yeah but just

2:09:54before we get to that we’ll get a register okay so uh yeah thank you all for staying on this long it means a lot to me and the team let’s start so we’ve

2:10:01got sockets we’ve got sea Dempsey we’ve got Billy toy we’ got Nick Eren and hopefully I won’t get stitched up this

2:10:06week as we have for the last two times that we’ve done it Chris horn we got humble 93 we got olle got Ross sanss we

2:10:12got Troy Bo we got Ian McDonald’s we got early years learning is fun smart Spar UK back toour guy red snake

2:10:18D Cris rtcm Matt Marine Eng Paul rard Richard calan blue electrics Gavin gu

2:10:25Kevin Osborne Neil Bridgman Dan Sparky in training Richard Bushnell James Muller Kevin graville Chris wi Sparky

2:10:32Mark Von Kano Angel simeonov impendulo Services short circuit Michael Williams

2:10:39Joel Eagan and Roger Brookfield and well here we’ll also do the GT time so Le’s

2:10:45time was 5 minutes 38 the closest to that was smart spark UK who I just mentioned in the register there at 5

2:10:51minutes 24 so go to the link in the description fill out the form and get involved to and we’ll send you prize

2:10:57Well we won’t but thank you very much you got a nice shout out anyhow so yeah Mr Chan’s got more chance of bumping into him giving him his prize so that

2:11:03will be brilliant but thank you ever so much it’s been an epic because we’ve had some epic people on the show this

2:11:08evening so we’ like to thank Griff returning again for the second time I’m sure you’re going to be back again by

2:11:13popular demand I do hope so but Gary I’ve got to tell you I’ve got little present for you oh

2:11:20no oh no cuz I know how much you you desperately need another battery where

2:11:26about is I think we just pop it behind the scat here doubt there one here we go

2:11:31so oh thank you very much brilliant yeah yeah brilliant it’s h the second B just what I was uh

2:11:39looking for so a few few more appearances on the show I’ll bring a battery with me every time and you’ll be

2:11:45able to sit at home soldering those up to your heart contend okay all right and we’ve got two people

2:11:50from sunn it’s a bit like having two batteries but when you’ve only got one battery it’s not like the two people

2:11:56from sunsin but I’d like a second one so I could call my batteries maybe Lee and I can call them J I go Jimmy I’ll call

2:12:04Lee and Jimmy so when I’m in there I’ll can having a Jimmy Lee I love it on the cuff that one was

2:12:10so if I get me batteries I’ll put a little sticker on him and we’ll name him after you Gary would that be

2:12:16ip65 rated I and in our house we haven’t got to worry where we’re tinkling at our age yourself I know you probably get

2:12:22there a little bit late you’re not as Nimble as around the hands in the fly area I’d imagine there has been one or

2:12:28two times when you’re standing in your uh yeah yeah you a damp patch in the roof yeah don’t tell me that I’ll check

2:12:35every time it rains heavily or keeps me awake at the best of times we’ve had a great time today and it’s only thanks to

2:12:41the great people that support us that allows us to come live every two weeks both on Facebook which we had a huge

2:12:47response tonight on Face Facebook as well as on YouTube we’ve been reading most of the comments from YouTube we’d like to thank the great people at the

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2:12:57lighting we’d like to thank the wonderful people that were on last time out from luden paloli when we had uh

2:13:03geovani okay as they now called Giovani and the team were on last time out so we’ like to thank them from luden palaz

2:13:09onlyi for supporting us and the award winning PV Ultra which you’re sitting on this evening as homage to the great

2:13:15people down at Doncaster cables let’s buy let’s buy the best is what I would

2:13:20suggest on there Gordon any final thoughts there’s loads of stuff people got in there some late chats coming in

2:13:26on metering and CT clamps which I think we have to do some stuff on anyway because we get asked that question all the time and it seems yeah there’s a

2:13:33lots of there’s Lads to go at actually yeah it’s been fantastic comments tonight yeah we we appreciate everyone

2:13:39who stays on there’s been a lot of football on tonight we know as well obviously did Liverpool play this evening sir you were playing this even

2:13:45do we know the results how did Liverpool get on this evening I think Liverpool won two one that’s good enough for me

2:13:50we’ll stick with that even if it’s not true we’ll at least be happy to at the end of it so thank you ever so much for people that have given up their time on

2:13:55Facebook and on YouTube to to listen to us hopefully you got something out of it I suggest I have and I thank everybody

2:14:01around here for passing their information on and hopefully this Contracting electri you have as well if you’re watching it on catchup and you

2:14:06weren’t watching it live still put the comments in it will help Drive future live streams but I think now it’s time

2:14:11to say good night good night good night good night good night night and let’s hit the credits see if you’re in themThanks for watching – Roll the credits

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2:15:27right

well it’s our favorite time of year again Autumn is here which means it’s absolutely freezing cold and the rain

0:11has just stopped just the time of year that really electricians want to be heading onto the roof to fit solar

0:17panels little bit of moss little bit of slip you pick up the old solar panel it’s bit like a sail could send you

0:22anywhere and you’re thinking to yourself This is an opportunity that I’m not interested in so is there an alternative

0:28well could there be an electric s always tell us they they don’t like it when other people do their jobs you know they

0:34don’t like you know plumbers doing a bit of electric so why are we on roofs doing roofers that’s roofers territory so

0:40should we even bother no and is it more economical to take that out of the equation when you think of the expense

0:47of the scaffold Tower the number of hours unskilled roofers on top of there trying to wrestle away with a bit of

0:53rail in order to support those obviously keeping the building nice and dry oh how many how many headaches at night you’re

0:59going to have laying there thinking was that roof watertight when I left it when the customer is only really concerned

1:05with cheaper electricity yeah and that’s what we’re going to look at tonight should we just be fitting batteries and

1:11not bothering with a hassle of solar panels well we’ve got some experts along to help us we’ve got the team from

1:17sunsync and back again we’ve got Griff Thomas from Gtech who usually upsets

1:23somebody and stick around as well cuz you could win a prize because tonight we’re cashing in the Copper from our

1:29green cable bin you can’t win the cash you might win a set of wo

1:34probes so which one in the team is he going to upset this time because it was mildly me last time with Griff well it

1:40was the viewers as well Gary talk to social media making videos putting DC isolators in fitting meters things like

1:47that but we’re not going on there tonight we’re not no we’re talking about is it more economical maybe or should

1:52the solution be installing batteries but forgetting those solar panels when I’ve been on that adventur so I can’t believe

1:58we’re having this stream exactly and we have got those two treats as we mentioned so yes we have got the challenge wall coming up where you can

2:04win but you can also win by getting an early gambling an early gambling we have because obviously we have got some

2:09visitors from Liverpool joining us today so we thought we’d best get rid of all the loose copper and things that can be

2:15easily removed from the building and put in the back of a car and take into your local scrapyard so we called in green

2:20cable to cash in our our wheelie bin we did and talking to the people in The

2:26Green Room as you’ve now insulted one and we’ve worried about the other one insulting us or something well let’s bring in the the camera to see who I

2:31guest are maybe they give us a cheeky Little Wave you know it’s National don’t bring your hair to work day today so there we go so Lee’s in the middle okay

2:38so and Lee is our friend from Liverpool and I’m sure he’s going to get a little bit of banter on the way through as we do this now you’ve already been given

2:43your first golden opportunity to get in the comments and by getting in the comments you can get in the register so

2:48first of all we want to know how much money we cashed in today when we actually got that rid of our green cable

2:54bin that would be great and also we love your comments if you’re watching this and you’re not watching it live on Facebook or on YouTube we like the fact

3:01that it can drive further Stream So other things and other things that we can talk about moving forward and hence

3:07we’ve got this one on the back of the one when we had Griffin the first time round as well yes we have yes so get those entries in in pounds and Pence

3:13that’s what we want to know pounds and Pence just Richard Brook was an early 95 you need to put the pence in as well

3:20okay so just round that number round yeah okay and also we’d like to thank the wonderful people allow us to comeThanks to our sponsors

3:25live onto Facebook and YouTube every two weeks we’d like to thank the great people at the SEO group that bring us

3:30the brand such ASO liting and bgyn EV we’d like to thank our good friends that were on the show last time luden palaz

3:37and I think uh I think we could say the Giovani Giovani was really pleased with

3:42his stream because he even sent out the bit when he CED down the tool from above and we’ve got another Rick’s to time this evening and the wonderful people at

3:48Doncaster cable awardwinning PV Ultra and other cables that they’ve invented along the way along with the Staples of

3:55the electrical industry as well some good some good prices coming in there clear I think there’s some customers

4:01clearly clearly there’s some people who filled up some wheelie bins with C in the past and they’ve got an idea now they yeah I could imagine what full B

4:07and it was a full bin as well that we sent it in yeah okay so it was a delicious we’ve got a nice treat and that’s uh that’s going to be Joe’s

4:12segment tonight isn’t it we got some brilliant segments we’ve got the two Joe’s okay we’ve got also we’ve got Griff and we’re going to hear from Sun

4:19sink’s CEO as well Keith Keith GF is on yes he is should be really good couldn’t

4:24be here in person it turn up in spirit batteries not solar that seems counterintuitive to me so this is going

4:31to be a tough one for me this evening having got my solar panels installed and a battery you’re probably going to

4:36unpick this and suggest maybe that I’ve uh well it is well not me I think we best bring our guests cuz they’re the

4:42experts in this are the better be otherwise we’ll be in a world of trouble in the world of trouble so it is myIntroducing tonights’ guests

4:47pleasure to introduce Griff Thomas a return guest to the show James Leiden and Lee Dobson from Sun great

4:57come cheers oh obviously CU we we’ve got an extra guest we’ve had to bring out the emergency chair so Griff’s taking on

5:03the emergency chair on the end there we did that before we’ve done that before yes you’re sitting on a rooll of PV

5:09Ultra there say I’m I’m sitting on it I’m taking it home all right okay there you go have you not got any I might have

5:15a little bit all right don’t tell donc C oh Lads of prices coming in for that for that cable

5:22bin really interesting thank you very much for joining us so yeah you’re from sunn and we’re obviously going to get into all that but let’s first of all

5:27shall we start with you James let’s have a little little bit about yourself in about 60 seconds fantastic thanks for

5:32having us um good evening I’m James Leiden I’m the uh Northern sales manager

5:38for sunsync in the UK um so I look after um whether it’s our independent

5:43Distributors our national distributors in the new in the UK whether that’s training um visiting clients so yeah

5:51very passionate about Renewables and glad to be here okay so it must be the world’s most difficult job in this

5:56current climate where Energy prices are soaring and you’re trying to sell a renewable source of energy into a

6:02property or a business that can save the money you must be really struggling to sell stuff I would imagine can you it’s

6:08enough to make you lose your hair yeah I would imagine it is yeah imagine those bonuses every month Come Sailing In Lee

6:14so tell us about yourself in 60 seconds yeah so I’m Lee and I’m the UK technical lead um I’m here to try and support this

6:20basically our technical staff that we’ve got in the UK and all the installers on site um so everyone who’s got a problem

6:27calls in I try try and assist them there’s probably a lot of calls at the moment we’re relatively new over the last few years in the UK uh but it is

6:34it’s getting there and we’re we’re growing as we go okay all right so technical you got the easier the two

6:39jobs there nothing technical in there was there for you James the more work I do the more work Le okay okay well

6:46hopefully not because hopefully the system my system hasn’t caused me any issues at all causing issues brings me

6:52to you Griff yes after last time surprised you’re back for a second run in it but we’re grateful to have you here but can you tell us again in 60

6:58seconds all about yourself yeah so my name is Griff Thomas and I’m managing director of Gtech trading limited we

7:04deliver training all over the UK predominantly on Renewables um I spend a lot of time also hunting out Rogue DC

7:12isolators trying to remove them from installations after the last uh gig that

7:17we did together um and I also contribute to a lot of the national standards as well so working alongside the guys at

7:23the I to write the codes of practice and various other documents around the the renewable and emerging Technologies

7:29yeah and we’re in safe hands we know that from last time and yes we did have the the road DC isolators that don’t need to be installed along with kilowatt

7:35hour meters and all the rest I’m sure there’s some content coming our way shortly as another that there is well we’ll be looking at your plant room Gary

7:42toilet and Bassin yes yes yes yes I’m sure I’m going to get another paston as we go through this winning you’ve even

7:47taken to ringing me up and messaging me with the things I should or shouldn’t have absolutely every time I see those

7:52clips of your plant room I’m something there going there’s another one you didn’t I’ve solved the end cap on the

7:57trunk in now so that’s been in yes so we’re right and we’ve got a Paul rard coming in your shoely that was that

8:04friendly local installer Paul rard yeah yeah it’s quite local to a to be fair shoes shoes let’s have them bring them

8:10in them so look at those hand mirrors look at them bad boys polished this morning lift it up let’s look look at

8:16that hey not got a big shoe though no no no no so people with the little shoes

8:22yeah little feet that’s what they say okay well it is time obviously to choose

8:27uh well to see if our guest are actually any good on the tools so background you didn’t say your background electricalElectricians’ Challenge – Lee vs James

8:33background yeah so I’ve got an electrical engineering background yeah uh unfortunately got a degree in

8:38electrical engineering but sadly not been on the tools so uh never been on the tools no so anything further on from

8:44this video please take a bit of DIY at home I’m just going to say no until the

8:51video okay yeah Liverpool area have you ever managed to get a car to work that didn’t have a set of keys no okay James

8:58same question to yourself um no no on the tools experience bar basic DIY uh

9:05and the closest I personally get to electronics is plugging my laptop in um so that is my explanation for I imagine

9:12what you’re about to see on my uh challenge well it’s obviously time for the uh time for the viewers to join in

9:18so do we think have our guests Hoodwinked us it is time to get your times in you have to do two things tonight cuz we’ve got two guests you

9:24have to say who do you think will be the fastest will it be James or will it be Lee and the time you think they will

9:31complete the challenge in so you want if it’s Lee you want Lee 17 hours 57

9:37minutes or if it’s James 3 months and two days yeah or have we just Hoodwink

9:43to people Gary well I think I’m haven’t seen it so I’ve only got from what they’re going on I think this could be a close one I think there’s more Pride at

9:50stake here maybe than time I would suggest the plaster on my finger might give away uh my uh lack of uh electrical

9:59wiring skills also did you injur it in race one two or three uh yeah it was it was emotional so when when was the

10:06injury occurred race one two or three oh so you’re carrying an injury for two of them all right okay well the lady with

10:13one hand never moaned so your cut finger doesn’t watch with us at all we got wi

10:18there so we don’t know who’s going to be at first yeah you’ve got some plenty of regular people and Joel eagan’s on there he’s watching you he was supposed to be

10:24here as well he cried off with a with a with a with a little cold or something cold yeah so stop the Jolie Jolie Jolie

10:35we couldn’t do that this time could we cuz he wasn’t in right are we going to bang it on then let’s go for it it let’s

10:40go for it who’s up first then so uh here we go come on we haven’t seen this no we haven’t oh Le up first oh he’s used to

10:47getting inside enclosures very quickly I would imagine coming from the Liverpool area he can have uh screws out of that

10:53as quick as you get have four tires off a Cortina okay so here we go front off on your Edge there go

11:01yes we’re gone there good start radio frequency from that looks lumpy at the top okay

11:07here we go full set that was good impressive hang on a second hang on I’m rethinking fish wires like that to get

11:14inside cars normally you could just get the window down for if you us better to hook the uh the door catch open allegedly

11:22yeah okay oh we’re down the bottom now we’re up and down here here we go so using the um wo stripping tools it

11:28always suggests whiff of somebody hasn’t got a clue if they’re borrowing the tools from us okay here we go something

11:33no no no he’s got them up without it so uh yeah good got the old uh wedding Pros

11:40there with the old one knee so will you get the colors around the right way this is a good start this you’re under pressure here James you know that going

11:46to be under pressure very aware of that just remember if it looks L usually is yeah this looks good obviously I would

11:53imagine a bit of quality editing going on here just been spread up there a little bit we have we have yeah we doy

11:58try to keep the shot under two hours okay going to Earth the B boys you seem to know your way around those Cutters

12:04though first timers with those yeah pretty good G he must done a little bit

12:10of soldering ey at some point practical at all do it all on on a laptop now on

12:17card and everything yeah apparently they do kids today yeah they’re born oh

12:22that’s a different use of a screwdriver in it never been in a carer either if

12:27no Austin Agro no G it’s a credit card for all these yeah all done on a laptop

12:33fishing scams stuff like that right little putting it back together though never well you normally run off by now I

12:40think this is the first time we’ve ever had somebody do the socket first and then yeah get to to up to the consumer

12:45unit it’s good we’re in a luden consumer unit it was great to have on last time out as well now available in yeah just

12:52about to say that you can now get a black one as well sounds good oh there you go mouth on there catching a few flies yeah concentration yeah good

12:59concentration there bought your fingernails as well so it’s all good so here we go lefted yeah people are best

13:06people are don’t go there Griff I’m left-handed you thought you said the best people are yeah left-handed yeah

13:12and I’ll get him a left-handed screwdriver as well which was Andy so CPC to go look you’re dressing them in this is good this is good here we go and

13:20final connection and Lee is done just press and what I like about this you’re at the top now for the Stop button look at that and Cal well we know who’s next

13:27James oh dear straight off with a bit of glare look at that look at that two lights there bit of force off that W

13:34there is yeah oh on what we’re doing here I don’t think we know here we go ah we left C already

13:42there didn’t we got got the cover off okay yeah you’re trying to remember the instructions that badly that yeah you

13:49forgot the key screws somebody glued the the cover on

13:55we like excuses got up well done this is good start round L Eco Bend and into the

14:01lud and consum unit relaxed here yeah it’s good for the blood to start squirting out really I don’t think this

14:07was the uh the bloody version we said it was the first one that’s why I asked you so if it was the first one it will be

14:14the first one I would imagine I think he had a couple of ons oh did he could could

14:21be definitely the first one there’s no plaster on that finger no all right yeah here we go Sol plenty of slack on the C

14:30yeah absolutely post that one in there just yeah oh the view showed everyone

14:36you’re married I like the way he did that the ladies a there when it’s like I am married here folks yeah oh instant

14:41what’s happened de oh like a coiled spring we’re back in

14:47again did did tell you both about the steps you didn’t listen to that advice you can’t see that cage opening can you

14:57no a good chucker I think Rick’s he come straight from a swimming pool did you manage to get the cap off full it’s full

15:06R mode it was the right idea yeah straight from the swimming pool left the cap on and uh yeah here we go right

15:14still what the socket to do right here we go this we lost the

15:21toolsy rainow the tools out the way I like it oh dear man so did you know the

15:27full rainbow was coming up did did you know name the first I’ve seen that’s why I encourage people to use the step so we

15:33can catch it out on the full rainbow so when I say to you have you watched this before and you say yeah yeah yeah it’s

15:38obviously coming apart now and hav’t really watched it have you you you’ve come along hoping that you get away with

15:44it be fair though he’s honest though that isn’t on the tools is he no no that

15:49absolutely yeah wow and we sped this up so uh yeah that’s good three attempts

15:57okay so your time for your best attempt okay so we might not be watching your best attempt here what we tend to do now

16:02is take the most comical one obviously and we go through I know you had some issues with some screws at one point you said you sort of decided to spray them

16:09all over the floor okay that made it a little bit more tricky you went the wrong oh look how short that one is I like your style it’s going to make it

16:15nice and interested on the protective conductor in the back of the box how long isn’t that gone short oh come here

16:21come here come on come on socket come to me look at that you’re one of them ones we all hate don’t you pull it off

16:26nothing comes away look at we go so two screws away from completion

16:32can we get it wedding band back in look at that yes one more what’s like going

16:38on olid do you have to wear a hat permanently when you’re on you come back with like that they call the golfer’s head don’t they where You’ got like

16:43everything’s Brown down here and then when you take it off you got a white normally Sombrero

16:50needed half a tan okay we uh Harman collected people are saying that was Ross’s advice there second fastest

16:57person on the world you thought you were slow I think he been polite SL I think we take that one yeah I don’t think

17:02Rossy time’s in any danger at 253 even though he got thrashed by James finny at 244 and his video went out didn’t it in

17:09the last seven days haven’t had a chance to look at that I’ve watched it so it’s all right so plenty of people on who’ve

17:14done this before we’ve got Neil bridg we’ve got Darren crannis on there we’ got Ross yes yeah Darren crannis on yeah

17:20great let’s have a little look over to see sometimes anyone anyone else you recognize on there you sort of up little

17:27must not Q cells Ross at Qs yeah he’s down he’s down the bottom Gary is hePlacing them on the leaderboard

17:32Ross hanging on we’re going to have to come up with things soon people are going to have to end up Vanishing off into Carland so so we’re right down

17:40there yeah okay you come around so uh obviously GFF is a good Target now look

17:45at that you’ve gone above Darren kranis again

17:51always so uh so four minutes would you say it’s outrageous for anyone to be over four minutes uh o okay

17:59it is near yeah well I mean yeah I mean people should just B give up the jobs shouldn’t they if they’re on that but uh

18:05who you starting with uh oh we start with James actually that’s not good sign James yeah that was good sign so so you

18:12didn’t do this you didn’t do this in four minutes no no I’m going to be crouching right down

18:18here my word you did this in six minutes

18:25and 40 seconds one second slower than the fastest Indian on the board there

18:31down at chish there so with David Barnes from nipex oh wow so he’s actually slower than Rick I know I’m going to

18:38have to yeah that’s a first actually so slower than Rick Rick will be delighted we’ll come on to where Rick is in a

18:43little bit here so that you could be off to Car Land in another few uh in a few weeks uh R so Lee the audience thought

18:51you would be quicker actually not that much quicker I must say that’s one so we

18:57are in you’re not in 4 minute territory you are in 5 minute territory so again I’m off back down again I tell you that

19:04shouldn’t have even got up we’re going to have to start staring these down here as a clue people normally say let’s have

19:09a look you’re right you did this in five minutes and 38 was just put you above

19:15your friend Paul elcock there okay that’s and also faster than faster than

19:20Rick oh yeah everyone’s been faster than re that’s good pretty good so yeah in in

19:26solid non-el electrician territory there yeah but not putting any flags up though are you so wow yeah you you did have a

19:34whiff that you weren’t going be as quick and you were you were correct there but that was awful your time awful like yeah

19:42well done Le anything in five minutes is good it just looks worse now because the amount of people on there but five minutes is a is a nice number to be in

19:48obviously three minutes is a lot better number to be in and you’re above Darren CR Darren yes well I when I was here a

19:54bit earlier on we actually got down to the the decimal places and worked out that I was about 04 of a second faster

20:01than Darren so sadly I’m I’m I’m much better we’re studying the footage back we are yeah match the two together later

20:09that was much appreciated you’re even struggling on alphabetical order on first and second names to actually be above him so yeah yeah so so it was

20:16great fun yeah so yeah brilliant well done thank you very much we’d like to present you with the uh the inaugral shirt w we uh it’s behind you Gordon

20:24bring in hand cam as well so yes if you do the challenge and Paul rard sent us Super Chat wants to wants to have a go

20:30out the challenge we’ll have to invite Paul along and not is he I don’t know you know bit of a risky one that would

20:36he be faster than you do you think well if he is just don’t show it well there you go so there you go look you only get

20:42this the next show you at you can you can wi so you’re a big evertonian fan so it’s like getting your first Everton

20:47shirt there I know you wear all black I suppose that’s a Liverpool thing so you don’t get seen at night when you’re darting around between the alleys so

20:53that’s all good there Lee let’s have a look at James got one for Griff as well I do I think they’re waiting for my

20:59size to come in what size is it Griff that one that one extra large is it yeah is it let’s have a look in the label

21:05let’s have a little look have your extra large label I think there’s a two in there

21:11[Music] somewhere we’ve only got two different sizes we got drown you or really drown

21:17you so uh it’s good well that was good fun well we enjoyed that yeah it was good fun you were worried about that

21:23someone was worried who emailed in earlier in the week you oh it was me yeah I emailed in last minute got

21:28dropped in and I was like electrician’s challenge what’s this is this going to be something someone’s never thought of before doesn’t know how to work I think

21:36I think if I didn’t have the near-death experience of uh cutting a main artery I think I could have done it uh maybe a

21:41couple of minutes faster but maybe next time we’ll send the cleaning Bill through disinfect the all set there was

21:47blood every I came back in it was like a war zone one tiny cut like Gall after

21:54Halloween was like that’s BR set the same we’re we’re all in now we’re we’re nice andGary’s solar install

21:59comfortable let’s get into the the meat of this then so we’re suggesting you’ve you you’ve done me every time now so you

22:06you said to me I think the last time we met each other you said to me I don’t know why you bothered with solar panels you could have just done batteries well

22:12I mean you only had four fitted right you should have had six I had six you had six you should have had eight yes

22:18okay let’s just have a look we’ve got a picture of Gary’s roof okay it’s a lovely looking roof as well my M was

22:23yeah look at that fantastic absolutely fantastic so that was your that’s your six solar

22:28yeah yes they’re lovely a lot of effort to get them up there was it it was yeah let’s let’s let’s be brutally honest about this so on reflection it’s the

22:35same amount of effort almost if I’d had twice as many panels okay a couple of extra clips I understand to all the rail

22:41on maybe a joining piece and all the rest of it scaffold tow is the same the two people on the roof will be the same

22:46I would imagine for the actual installation part of it it’s going to take only a few minutes more to put more

22:52panels on so I understand that and then you peel it back on what we’re going to talk about today there’s a lot of money

22:59been invested into that roof NE on yeah but not not invested necessarily in the

23:05cost of the panels because we understand now panels are very very reasonable so that’s great especially if you’re doing

23:10maybe one story flat roofs as our good friend at Apprentice one to1 is okay that’s fine but now when you look back

23:17at trying to get your money back and obviously make a difference and go green and you threw it at me maybe you just

23:23needed batteries Gary maybe you did yeah I know keep that air fryer ticking

23:28yeah yeah yeah the one I brought picture of me air in but but yeah so we’re going to we’re going to walk this through

23:34today probably at most times giving me a smack on the wrist but could we have made equal impact for the customer

23:42because we’re interested if I put my customer hat on I’m interested in saving money okay so if I don’t need something

23:48and can save money that’s a really good option potentially when you think I only got six panels on the roof for the

23:54effort that it cost okay that’s where we’re I’m looking at that roof G I bet you you’re worried at night aren’t you you’re thinking the storms are coming

24:00are those tiles on properly is there going to be a damp patch appearing in the bedroom roof not you not quite

24:07getting to the toilet the um I can’t get to the toilet now cuz it’s it’s full of batteries yeah

24:13abely that’s my plant room a minute minute a minute please tell me at the minute James say at the minute just one

24:18for now for now let’s have a look at the plant room as well while there this is Gary’s plant room which happens to have

24:24a basin and toilet it does yeah okay so yeah and I’m I’m cool with that so me

24:30and the wife I’m absolutely cool with that because I think the benefit of being green means that doesn’t bother me

24:36at all it’s in a toilet at the end of the day there’s only a couple of things we ever do in there and one of them is obviously clean and tidy okay so that’s

24:42fine so I’ve got no worries with that at all but like you said about the roof I must admit I still look up every time I

24:48walk into my bedroom because I’m thinking will I see a brown patch I trust sha wholeheartedly and watched him

24:54do the job and it was fantastic but you still got that Al approach to it is that I watched an electrician with a

25:00different set of skills invade my roof followed by I live there when he’s left

25:06so I understand all these from a client’s point of view these are okay I was the client sometimes and cameraman

25:12others so you said and you said maybe there is a different solution but maybe

25:17one that could be considered yeah B battery only or electrical energy storage in the Posh World um why not

25:25just look at that and look at the different options that are open to you from a contractor’s perspective there’s

25:33no roof work so it’s the case of going along and apparently in about an hour with some systems uh just fting a a

25:40battery in place and connecting it up to uh to the house system whatever that

25:46might be wherever it’s going depends a little bit on what purpose it’s there to serve um and using that to to take

25:52advantage of cheap tariffs to store it store the energy and then discharging it when it’s a higher tariff period of time

25:59and is this a solution that sunn offer yeah definitely we’ve um you know we’ve got our standard hybrid kit with

26:05batteries um which are great as a PV connected system or even a standalone AC

26:11coupled system for you know using that cheaper power from the grid um we have a new product that’s just launched in the

26:17UK called LifeLink um this is an all-in-one unit so it’s available in three different sizes from 2.5 Kow up to

26:245 kwatt we were saving it to the second section Sal pitch young man keep going keep

26:30going we may show it later on secretly in a bit of footage yeah so yeah we do we do an all-in-one unit which is you

26:37know great for this this Market of AC coupling um and utilizing that cheaper

26:44power off peak but I’m going to need a bit of convincing Gordon convince me well hold on well obviously we know

26:50obviously ever since you’ve had solar yeah you like to bore people to death with the generation do probably about 10

26:56times a day I love it doesn’t matter if someone’s not interested in the street as well you will accost them and give a

27:02little one to one session and again I think that’s part of the journey I think if once you’ve gone there that you know

27:08it’s so incredible to think and I like the way they they sometimes call it a power plant you’ve got your own

27:13producing set at home producing electricity but somebody who’s been electrical industry since the age of 16

27:19I quite like to look at the fact that I’ve generated energy that I’ve stored or used in my house I love that and that

27:25might be an electrical thing it might just be a me I don’t know but I absolutely love that but there’s still

27:31other ways in there well let’s have a little look someone’s already said it there’d have to be a pretty good differential between the peak and off

27:37peak rates to justify it so we just to show you how you’re missing on Gary had add a dive into the sunsync

27:44inverter today to look at the dynamic prices on agile octopus which is halfThe difference between agile tariff and Gary’s tariff

27:49hourly rate so I think we’re can bring the first one in so just think early hours of this morning you could have

27:54been buying in your power at an average of 7.2 p a kilowatt is that for 3 hours

28:00that’s for Y hours probably enough time to to fill a 10 Kow battery well no

28:05you’ve only got five James but I’m getting another one aren’t I James promise me I’m getting thank you very much you only got five kils yeah cuz I

28:12haven’t sent the other one yet I don’t want to bring it up too many times tonight put it in the comments when get his battery this was yeah that’s what

28:18you could have bought in so s on so no hang on cuz this is new to me

28:24you’re throwing this stuff at me so I could have charged up from 3:30 in the morning till 6:00 at an average of about

28:307 P yes so I could have filled my two batteries only got one but we’ll come back to it for 72 yes now I reckon my

28:38house runs up between 7 and 10 kwatt hours okay depending whether I’m at home

28:43or whether the kids are so St I’m never at home but yeah sort so I could have

28:49gone I’m I’m going to run the risk here and just charged up those batteries for

28:5572p and if it had been the best day ever just took one for the team yeah if I’d

29:00have hopefully got an export tariff I’m not there yet I’m building this series up hav got an export tariff that’s a gamble worth making in this time of year

29:06because I’ve got I I managed I think to create less than 1.2 kilowatt hours today so your battery is not full well

29:14no it’s yeah and got a whiff in it it’s like it’s empty yeah yeah yeah Michelle’s already in she’s got a

29:20feeling that you’re going to go through a change of energy Supply soon she’s not looking forward to that obviously now

29:25because your battery’s not full you’re buying in energy so let’s go to the next slide so you’re now buying in if you’re

29:30if you’re obviously the family like to the sensible hour normally sort of tea time we’ve only got one tariff so we’re

29:36we’re on whatever the cap is so you’re at about 35 P so you’ve now probably used that 10 Kow hours you’ve paid

29:44£350 and again On’s let’s just hang on a second

29:49yeah Griff’s joining it as well yeah that’s bring up your right okay so so

29:54that doesn’t sound a lot you know not many people are going to lose a lot of sleep over £350 and saving therefore £278 but my

30:02big fear is we’ve just started this awful looking weather and I reckon we won’t break out of it until March if

30:08normal I’ve got months of this and that’s for one day yeah so if you you pull that 2.78 by a year all right best

30:17part of ,000 of energy I’ve got to buy anyhow oh

30:23yeah I think we need I think we need to run

30:29look at that tomorrow today and tomorrow that’s five oh I’ve never seen any money before wait is that I thought the

30:36scrapman didn’t pay in cash we it wasn’t for Liverpool was he doesn’t Okay so so let’s let’s work this

30:42through then so yeah I I I like that because you’ve got the option of fixing

30:48your energy price okay that that agile tariff will move around and this is a discussion we had at a show I think I’ve

30:53got an option of fixing my energy price and if I didn’t have the expens of the the roof and me liking the fact that I

30:59look at the weather and is it going to be sunny and all the rest of it I’m I’m almost in control of me

31:05Energy prices as long as I buy them in on the agile tariff and you’ve told me before that tariff has actually Fallen

31:10to a negative value yeah it was last week I was looking on the train just to see how much one you were bleeding on

31:16about about your well you could have it was negative yeah I think were’re paying you 2 p a kilow out to take the

31:23energy right I think about three months ago o person paying people one pound for

31:28every every unit they used not exported they used so it was obviously a day where there was massive over production

31:35uh in the UK so it’s uh yeah quite extraordinary okay in the back end of the grid we you join in as well well I

31:42thought so I was just waiting for you to segue in you’re you’re a bit sleepy tonight though it’s probably the hair that’s keeping you warm on top and

31:48uncomfortable yeah yeah yeah uncomfortable hot we’ve got huge generating capacity we’ve now got lots

31:53of solar we’ve got lots of wind going on as well and and in a time when we’ve got

31:58loads of wind blowing and it’s bright sunny days we’ve got all that generation we’ve got to remember it’s got to go

32:04somewhere it’s AC so either we’re going to store it we’re going to use it to pump those hydro plants up uh pump the

32:10water up to top of the hill there’s only so much of that you can do and at some point they’re going to want to encourage you to use it because it’s cheaper to

32:17pay you Gary to use it than it is to shut down the power station right and

32:22and this is This Ss of opportunity to me I think I think electricians and the ones we’ve spoke to and we’ve seen them

32:28at lots of shows where they’d be actually directed at solar and battery or other shows is it’s the roof that’s

32:34the one thing and always talk about maybe you need to get yourself in with a roofer maybe combine it let them do the

32:40bit they’re good at we know that there’s some great training out there people can be shown how to do a roof I watch Sean do mine brilliantly I’ve got no problem

32:46with that at all but it could be the barrier for a certain percentage of electricians to think I don’t want to do

32:51roofs and scaffold him so I’m going to turn down this opportunity but I think today today we’re going to be able to

32:57show a really compelling story of actually doing all the other stuff it still be if I use your system it will

33:02still be solar ready won’t it of course yeah but I will be benefiting from the minute I start it and it just seems like

33:08too good of an opportunity to turn away Tom someone’s already yeah someone’s already shipped it’s great obviously if you live in an apartment that’s

33:14expensive flat if it’s not owned by the council that’s the yeah obviously for

33:19apartments and things like that is a is is an option yeah isn’t it yeah yeah someone’s already are you going to get a

33:25wind turbine well we’ve had some conversations we’ve been talking about a system obviously I don’t

33:31think I’d get up to the is it a 12 KW hour yes at a site to this morning uh

33:36where somebody installed a 12 Kow wind turbine on a 12 Kow inverter yeah um as soon as we turn that on so like the

33:42weather’s not been great today we turned that on and straight away it was up at 10 kilowatt and that was just constantly

33:47turning out so even now where it’s pitched black at night it’s still giving power to the house so it’s another great

33:52way of giving power into the into the home yeah so that that side there the they’ve got one of our hybrid inverters

33:58and our hybrid inverters will take wind power or PV power um so both the inputs

34:04can be wind both can be PV or a mixture of the two okay so um you know some people will have PV and they’ll leave

34:11one of the mppts free for the future to Future proof themselves if they do want a win turbine um so it was quite an

34:17interesting site today it’s one you can keep it’s like the thermost flask of inverters it’ll put things in that are

34:23cold and keep them cold it’ll put things in that are hot and keep them hot does doesn’t matter which one you put them but you can’t put them both in together and you can with yours you wind and

34:30solar can you firest flask of the electrical industry so Sun sinking vers love it okay so so I’m underway yeah

34:38this agile tariff let’s let’s be let’s be devilment in the thing is it going to be every day is there going to be an option every day for me to charge

34:45cheaply or if I jump on an agile tariff hoping to get some cheap energy in my battery that all of a sudden I find

34:52mysteriously it’s not as cheap and I’m I’m now paying 1 at 6:00 at night the

34:57challenge is you set the Buy price yeah so you set when the price drops under a certain limit start charging your

35:03battery yes and then obviously you can don’t choose to sell it if it goes above a certain price as well so you’re in charge so the risk would be and this is

35:09going to really play on your mind G do it you you could back the wrong horse you could you could set your charge rate

35:16too high so imagine you’d set it at seven p no no you got up in the morning

35:22you think I’m going to I’m going to charge when it hits 7 P but then later in the day they’re paying you two p understand that yeah understand I

35:28understand that’s a risk but if I know I’m going to use 10 kwatt hours and I know that’s at 35p without playing the

35:34game and I can get it at anything under 35p I’ve already won ignoring the cost

35:39of the battery in the inverter okay I’ve already won so if I got it at half that price if I if I went I’m just going to

35:45set it at 20 P yeah I’m already winning because all the other times I’ll be at

35:5135 yeah so I I don’t think that’s a game you need you don’t even have to play you you can probably have a a little bit of

35:57fun with it but I think once you get to a certain point in the in the payback system you just can you just lock it in

36:02can you I’m going to now say my energ is only going to be 20p and and if you don’t want to get involved in any of

36:08that there’s always the really simple option of going for something like a straightforward economy 7 type tariff

36:14which is still available so that’s going to give you seven hours of off peak at night um some of them now are being

36:20advertised as vehicle charging but some of those tariffs will allow you to charge the battery um as well some of

36:27them down to 10 p a unit as a flat rate guaranteed so you don’t need to think about that Baseline price what you’re

36:32going to buy at what you’re going to sell at it’s a 10 P difference to a 30 P um import tariff it’s 20 p a unit

36:40guaranteed 2 pound a day 730 pounds a year on a 10 kilowatt hour per day usage

36:46and that’s what I am about so in Gary go green which is on the eix energy Channel you’re seeing my journey through this

36:52episode two’s been shot and ready for release episode three you’ll see tonight but will’ll get released on the energy Channel as well so yeah it’s it’s yeah

36:59it’s locking your energy prices in at a comfortable rate and it you know we’re all worried now we’ve lost 7% reduction

37:04Energy prices but we lost the cap so we paying more but if you got it in a 20 P you won you can choose that rate on our

37:11app so uh in The sunson Connect app if you’re normally paying let’s say 35 P

37:16per unit peak in our app you can you choose octopus we’ve got the continuous

37:22API with octopus where it’s got the the live tariff all the time so like you said you don’t have to gamble all the

37:28way down to 7 and A2 P or 8 p you can set it at a level that you’re comfortable at whether it’s 15 p and

37:34then our system will automatically charge the batteries for you once it goes below that threshold that you’ve

37:40set and you can also flip it on its head as well so um you can do energy trading

37:46through our app also so you can set okay I want to charge the batteries from the Grid at 15 but if there is a a high

37:53demand in the UK I want to sell back to the grid you can set at what rate you

37:59want to sell back to them at and that you the sell rate is part of the The Continuous um price in that you’re

38:06talking about exporting the energy back from the battery to the grid and being

38:11paid by your energy provider to do that and what sort of money can people get for that so you know on non windy

38:19overcast days when there’s a big demand uh on on the network you know sometimes you might be getting paid upwards of 40

38:25P per you it but if if you know if the customers bought that power in at

38:3215 it’s it’s win-win it’s 25 p

38:38uh welcome to this week’s math challenge so so Jang on I’ve had a little think

38:43here I’m I’m seeing this in the winter seeing the benefit in the winter because obviously I’m not getting a lot at all now and it’s quite disappointing I need

38:49an extra batter but we’ll come back to that but um it’s a little bit disappointing but I could play I could play a different game in the summer what

38:55if I kept the same game going so in the summer when there’s lots of solar generation everywhere and all of a

39:01sudden I think I’m going to have a little game here I’m going to set it quite low on my adob to maybe a couple of Pence and I’m going to hopefully get

39:07up in the morning and have my two batteries no I did that again my two batteries fully charged and then I’m

39:14going to hope it’s going to be blistering and I’m going to export that in the day and that could well mean that

39:21I’ve beat the the price I’ve paid in I’m getting paid back yeah yeah so I’m not worried about charging 10 Kow and hoping

39:28the sun’s in the back of the garden for long enough to get them fully charged I’m going to play the reverse game I quite like that game actually that’s

39:34probably more appealing than summer to get up in the morning knowing you’re already winning because you’ve set it at

39:39a really low price it’s a good start to the day yeah it is a good start to the day and then just think how much can I export is that is that an option Griff

39:45or have I just dream that one up because I’m looking at I think there’s a there’s a for everybody there’s a there’s a level of can you be bothered there’s a

39:52level of risk there’s a level of what do you actually want from that battery system do you want a guaranteed week by

39:58week return go for a fixed unit price on your import and your export do you want

40:04to look at doing the export which might pay you 4050 P I know that some companies last year when there was an

40:10energy event I.E that the grid was really stressed you wouldn’t you’ve been to events like that before and you’re

40:16asked to leave if I remember rightly um that they were paying up to 250 per

40:22kilowatt hour to force discharge people’s batteries and that’s happened actually the last two Winters right um

40:29but again it’s it’s what approach you want to take where do you want to enter that do you want to be looking at that

40:34and sometimes it’s about having to explain it to the customer as well um a lot of this can be really complicated

40:40for the customer especially when they’re a bit analog so do they just go in at the

40:45Baseline and hope for another battery and go I’m just going to try this on and off peak thing and see what happens but

40:52I think I’m pretty typical I mean I’ve never ever changed enery provider in the entire time I’ve had an energy provider

40:59what’s your unit rate I’m I’m on I’ve always been on the whatever the Tariff is thing they do now so that’s all I’ve

41:04ever had I’ve never ever tried to get it cheap or anything I just go I’m just going to pay that my wife’s on tonight

41:10if she’s on she said she won’t get back from working time but she but she said to me yeah yeah she said to me she said

41:15we’re not changing energy tariffs are we because I’ll be at work and you’ll be ringing me saying it’s 150 whatever you got on in the electricity turn it off

41:22and you can see that coming if you know what I mean but again it’s making sure you’ve stack the cards in your corner by

41:28having either enough battery to provide the energy for your property and control the price of them charging and batteries

41:34up and this is education I think the electricians hopefully through courses that you do and stuff that we provide

41:40that they can give those people another option especially those people a bit like myself that are a bit you I’m a

41:45three-story house as well I didn’t tell my installer that until he arrived you know I gave him all those surprises it’s like 50° pitch and all those you so I

41:52knew mine was a little bit challenging but again you know as electrician want to sell a product in you know let’s

41:58leave that bit out maybe give it as another option and at one stage for you it’s going to be really confusing isn’t it because since you’ve had your system

42:04installed you’ve been going around switching stuff off yes now if you go on to one of these nift tariffs your family

42:11is going to be so confused cuz you’re going to come home and say switch that on quick Qui he already does get the

42:17oven on already I don’t care shower now he does it can you imagine that you

42:22getting paid 2 pound a kilowatt hour he’s turning your ovens on yeah my kids are be so silly they’ll turn the gas on

42:27as well it’s like we turned everything on gas no heat pump no no no getting getting I’ll justart there’s Lads of

42:33questions coming in on things like g99 fit and batteries and Vault droping bigger cables airdale Springs Paul just

42:39mentioned uh there we’ve had a look at airdale spring so we will get back to it but that brings us on to we we’ll mop up

42:45some of those more technical ones as we go on there’s quite a bit on there but we’ll look at bigger batteries actually because we were down at solar andThe SunSynk Innagator Series

42:51storage last week and you’re 10 Kow G is nothing he’s only got five we had a look

42:57at if anyone seen the video that went out this is a a Mega Battery um so where

43:02would I put this on the drive or and I got to make a little space in the G let’s have a look at what on got another picture one of Joe let’s have a look so

43:07it comes in three different sizes okay the me that’s the Mega’s the big one Gary okay so so that’s the one I’ll get

43:14that go that’s driveway that’s replacing the garden shed and that’s just down by where you keep the bikes is that the

43:19idea going from the right to the left is and mobile seems a bit of an odd word there that don’t look like you can get a pallet truck under one end and move it

43:26anyway you mate on the other end is it so two PES okay right so we’re doing one one megawatt what’s the small one uh

43:32that’s the uh 200 200 Kow hour middle one is .5 half a megawatt and then we’ve

43:39got the 24 megawatt Beast okay it seems ridiculous though doesn’t it what would we want that for yeah but they’re fully

43:45self-contained batteries in there inverter in there but primarily for inverting batteries and charging

43:51batteries not necessarily solar but you could connect solar and they fully air conditioning they’ve got fire they’re

43:57great they’ve even got Garrick a security system in there I bet they have think did you

44:03must bet they yeah okay they look pricey

44:09is it going to cost me a few good what megawatt we’re talking half a million no less than that so the the price at what

44:16the the one megawatt unit will go out uh at is you’re not selling me one by the way you can be straight to the point I

44:22know you still have to one one five k for you out so the the one megawatt it’s going to go out uh to the End customer

44:29at less than 500 grand um so um and you know cple quite quite a bit less um so

44:38in between I don’t want to talk prices cuz I’ll we did a show special when we yeah there was a figure quoted uh on

44:45the show special watch the video for the show special so so so a hefty investment

44:50so Gordon you’re going to have to tell me where I’m going to have to because we know it’s not going on a drive where or in a garden where’s it going where we

44:55going to put megawatt of of energy solves a lot of problems so the first one is obviously some wind turbines behind there isn’t it yeah so obviously

45:03theyy look a whiff of AI Excess power you know you step up a level the more Sol you’ve got the more wind you’ve got

45:09you don’t want to give it away at the cheapest price to you as advantageous to hold your power back and drop it into

45:15the network when you need it right so that would be the supply authorities in our country would would say we’ve got a

45:21load of excess energy here we’re going to hold on to it no no independent producers right okay so an independ be

45:27anybody really but that’s the first problem is you don’t want to they don’t want to give that energy wear for free

45:32yeah well no okay so so you’re saying on that larger scale that they wouldn’t get

45:38paid to return that energy they want to keep it because like us at home 35 p a

45:44kilowatt hour or whatever their equivalent is as a business rate the more energy they can keep the more they can thin their B bills out is that what

45:50you’re saying that’s the first problem then there’s the amount of power you can export or import to a supply and it’s a lot of of installations are grid

45:57constraint yeah so and when you go over certain levels of import there’s a

46:02penalty per kilowatt hour in a commercial installation which we never see in the domestic world but you might

46:09have an installation that’s limited to X kilowatt and if you go X+ one suddenly

46:15your tariff increases by 3 4 five 20 fold and that’s called Peak load shaving

46:21so you want to just cut that out so you don’t get that happens a lot in heavy usages like Hospital environments and

46:28things like that so so make that nice and easy for people so I’m allowed to have let’s make it easy a kilowatt okay

46:34that’s all I’m allowed if I go over a kilowatt and I don’t so another 100 Watts over the top I get penalized for

46:39that it’s a bit like the old um when we had um lagging power factor correction and stuff like that what was this goas

46:46goas no no no come on let’s so when power factor when you you had you started dragging it to you know to

46:51lagging saen went off we turned off stuff so similar sort of thing is your Penal for drawing too much energy and

46:58this system would help us solve it right okay I understand I’m back in the room okay thank you so you have a maximum

47:03demand yeah from the grid and then obviously industrial consumers are heavily penalized for taking power at

47:08the wrong time of day as well that might be factored into the agreement so they don’t you know things like yeah you

47:16don’t take it during those peak hours when everyone wants to be at home cooking the tea okay yeah yeah so again but your business still runs at that

47:22time how are you going to service your own energy needs y okay again trickle charge your battery off peak or during

47:28those cheap rare hours and then deploy that energy storage instead of taking it from the grid to avoid peak time charges

47:35I think the most uh you know the applications that we see is the power redundancy pce so you might have

47:41hospitals who at the moment have got big diesel petrol generators as redundancy power where they’re being

47:47serviced you know once twice a year um so redundancy power but there’s a

47:52there’s a big piece in um the companies and the businesses that are grid restricted so you know during the day

47:58they’re they’re at the cap they’re hitting the limit on what they uh what they can bring in from the grid and they

48:04now want to install EV charges but they’ve not got any Headroom to do that with this solution um we can charge the

48:12container R storage uh batteries off peak when the load is less than in the

48:17day and then the EV charges can be powered from the containerized solution

48:23um so it’s keeping them under that cap but it’s G scope to to take the boxes

48:28that they need to take for for Ev and and this is trying to hold the grid up is it now it’s not the Grid’s going to

48:33fall over no it’s just just they’re cap so I take it the windings on the Transformer you know can only have you

48:39know everyone’s got to have a share with this electricity and if you gone and got greedy okay then there’s going to be an issue then this solves the problem yeah

48:46and I think moving forward as well I think we’ll see more sort of DSR agreements demand side response where

48:51there’s the days when as we spoke about before where there’s over production uh um whether you know people having large

48:59amounts of commercial storage can help absorb some of that excess and um you

49:04know the cheaper rates and again even with commercial tariffs there’s commercial tariffs out there where you do get a cheaper rate off

49:11peak and the term you just used there is one that a lot of people might not be familiar with the DSO yeah um so we we

49:18all we we know there as DNS right distribution Network operators and dsos

49:24are now all they’re all rebranding renaming to dsos which is distributed systems operators because now we’re

49:32talking about energy flow coming both ways in and out of that that point of use that we’ve always had historically

49:38we’ve got storage we’ve got EV we’ve got solar PV Etc so now it’s about that two-way flow of energy yeah the cnics

49:46out there and maybe not the electricians watching this the cnics out there say well we’ll just increase the grid we’ll just make the grid bigger we’ll just put

49:52in bigger cables we’ll do we’ll just impr if we improve Pro the grid then we won’t have to do all of these other

49:58Solutions is that even an option well let’s have a look at the pictures you know grid upgrades here’s the one this is one that they’ve worked on the me

50:04they’ve just done some undergrounding it took them six months it’s been it’s been the slowest process you’ve ever seen

50:11can’t rush quality though you can’t rush quality and and I think I’ve got to I managed to pick up just for you actually

50:17I managed to pick up a little bit of little bit of offcut cable there from from when we’re doing it there so that’s the leave it away from Lee yeah it’s Al

50:25Lee all right the again when you like it was twisted pair as well was that to keep the harmonics down is it

50:33there’s another picture I think there should be one yeah this is the sort of is that this is expensive stuff it doesn’t look expensive there’s a bit of

50:39concrete in doing it but the planning the time it takes you got to work back where do those cables go to they’re not

50:44going to upgrade those cables and what about the losses what what are the transmission losses we we’ve got all

50:50these power stations operating all over the country the transmission losses across the country are rough ly

50:5750% I was looking for some inspiration there so if we can localize that that

51:03power generation as in having solar PV and embedded generators locally that

51:08means that the losses are going to be significantly less yeah and we see more and more with a lot of the big

51:14commercial PV installs now where they’re getting put on g100 where there’s strict no export um regulations so you know

51:22having this sort of commercialized battery storage where they can cuz they’re not allowed to export they’ve

51:28got that battery storage and it’s it’s weth saying it with our containerized storage solutions but they’re pretty

51:35much plug and play um you know once they’re delivered to site it’s a big plug though right big plug big plug and

51:42a lot of play could you could you want that plug in I wouldn’t trust Jimmy or me

51:48to I could do it in six minutes eventually so so so the

51:55Solutions are there already so people say to us all the time at shows and that and we especially in our EV days when we going around there the grid can’t copePredicted energy storage capacity in and around Skipton

52:01if we we got an EV tomorrow the g go it looks like the solutions are there before the problems turned up am I right

52:07in thinking that well they know it’s coming so I mean the DSO but they’ve got a picture there’s a northern power grid

52:13one here the the dsos have already worked out where this is going okay so one here so the this is an online tool

52:20this is for us in Skipton here I boiled it down for our local electricians so Northern power grid have mapped out by

52:28uh Council area by substation level how much storage is on the network at the minute and where it’s going so this is

52:34Craven where we are bear in mind Skipton we’ve got one town and then we’ve got another town at the top of our area in

52:40the maps so not a big area at the minute there’s a you know way less than a

52:46megawatt so yeah 169 kilowatt of storage in the area or it was so that’s what

52:52last year current so the ability to store en is nothing it’s nothing okay but it’s a tiny area

52:57though it’s a tiny area Okay so so they’re mapping this out to say tell us what then uh well they’ve got a plan

53:03their investment in the network where people going to put storage where people going to have solar where the EVS where the heat pumps G so then we B the next

53:09slide Jo this is where it’s gone in by 2040 7 megawatts in this area seven

53:16containers I could I could I could fix that in six weeks got some sales you want me to make

53:24the connections for you though G will throw a bit training and if he

53:29come and do the race ball as well so we’ll all get a touch wow okay so you’re right that could be in your hospital

53:34that could be one at the hospital it could be dotted in a local substation it could be it could be the one we’re going to put in here yeah and we know it’s

53:41incredibly difficult round here because getting it commercial EV charging is really difficult and it because we’ve

53:46obviously got a higher station down here when he can’t put one in can he put a decent enough cuz he it’s full is it the

53:53actual the Transformer is full yeah so the solution is local storage Little bitor James eyes lit up there if you

54:00could give him the name of that high station I can see see a 200 K contain

54:05the hospital straight away but it’s a great opportunity isn’t it for the the viewers out there you know everyone

54:11knows yeah someone who’s a car dealership or a hospital or it’s anywhere where has a generator today

54:18yeah there you know a lot of people’s domestic properties now people are using EV charges with low balancing because

54:24you know let’s say someone’s got an 80 o main incomer at the house you know if they’re using a 32 amp charger it’s the

54:30same problem with business with commercial as it is with residential is people are are at that limit so yeah

54:36didn’t think of that one that’s good yeah s of yeah sorting your own to opportunity opportunity I would suggest

54:41okay you just again like we said if you’re not interested in getting on that roof you don’t have to the the the

54:47opportunity is there and I think again a compelling story to the client whether it be commercial industrial or domestic

54:53person compelling story and understanding what they can do and benefit their business you you know it

54:58won’t take a lot of investment in yourself will it to get that knowledge and all of a sudden it’s about the

55:04person that told me about this that can give you the solution wins the job in it yeah I think there’s a cracking

55:09opportunity here any more slides to a company that no no when people are in on Data Centers and all sorts I think I mean we’ve done we’ve done 50 minutes

55:16already actually where’s Rick today Joe actually he’s back in so he must have just finished his part-time job he’s onWhere’s Rick this week?

55:22a pizza course this week obviously Rick St will expand his Horizons he’s had enough of the electrical industry so

55:28he’s his nighttime kerun course R’s batching up some look like hand

55:34stretched pizzas there yeah he’s he does like his food he’s probably in a better sector maybe than electrical he loves a

55:40bit electrical but we know Rick loves a little bit of food don’t he so I think he’s but he has also been out with you this week didn’t he a visit down to

55:47Rick’s Grand what so it’s Rick’s he calls her granny or nanny or whatever it is it’s

55:52his his wife’s Nan okay what a lovely lady I know she she was a considerable

55:58age so well into her 80s as spritely as you couldn’t believe okay in the garage there was a few fizzy like beverages

56:05that she enjoys drinking by all account she’s very good at it as well as Rick’s got a couple of classic stories of not

56:11keeping up with Nana okay so that might have Rick’s back have a discussion about that what a lovely lady we went and did

56:17her we did her a bit of a favor but she did us a favor and it got us a wonderful Rick’s to time should we have a lookRick’s Tool Time

56:23what he was up to [Music] hello and welcome to Rick’s tool time

56:28again it’s another glorious day but we’re not here for that let’s take a look at this keto

56:35workbench so here we have it the folder bullet workbench incredibly easy to set up I

56:42just pop that there if I just hold on to the sides press these two tabs that drops out so that allows me to

56:50pop everything on the work surface meaning it’s not going to get wet on the the floor I’m not having to bend over to

56:57get into that box to get my screws and my plugs out so let’s run through some of these features you’re probably

57:03thinking well it opened up easily enough is it going to close easily enough yes it will

57:09however if we just pop this in like so if I pull that tight on the top here

57:17it will show you that it’s locked into position so now that we’ve got it in locked in place we can have use it as a

57:22workbench as is but let’s say we want to cut something on it so we’ve got a bit of tray a bit of trunk in we need to

57:28lock it into place we’ve got some adjustable g-clamps which are nicely fitted into the bottom

57:34here so with the g-clamp we can adjust the head this

57:40way once that’s in we can slide it into the bench up there and then closely into

57:48here which locks that into position so we’ve got a second one around this other side here and again if we just repeat

57:54what we did did on the first one let’s just adjust that one ever so slightly pop that in slide that on there squeeze

58:02the handle and then there we go I just pop that into there a nice little feature with these clamps is the fact

58:08that this slides so imagine that that was open fully and we started to clamp these Away by the time you got to this

58:15section let’s say once it was clamped in you’re going to have this stabbing

58:20you in the leg or in your gral area but with this one if I just push

58:26that one back I to just pull that little trigger in there slide it up here let’s

58:32say my materials that wide clamp that in as you can see there it’s not sticking

58:37out so much is it also just to mention with this the way that you lock it into this bench let’s say is if we squeeze

58:44this handle and up when the handle is open it actually locks it into the bench

58:51so if I squeeze that slide it into the slot there release the handle it ain’t

58:56coming back out so today we’re only going to use the workbench so we don’t actually need the clamps so let’s remove

59:02them and again as you saw earlier where I removed them from I can just pop them both back in there take that one out of

59:11there stick it under air for now I pop the bag a few

59:18tools and maybe even some screws and washers to save my back now I’ve run

59:23through a few feet on the workbench I’ve got to fit these laso Essence flood lights so let me know is it great or is

59:31it a gimmick get your votes in but till then I’ll see you on the flip side

59:37taada absolutely soing

59:45wet can’t believe

59:51[Music] it there he is we’ve got a little sneaky piz Pizza look at him fantastic I think

59:57I think everybody can appreciate the effort that Rick goes into Rick’s to on but for me that was possibly the best

1:00:03one it’s ever done but I am stalling for time a little bit early because above your head is the tool that needs to be

1:00:09summoned down and I can tell by the side grin you’ve given me there is that this is going to be the highlight maybe not

1:00:15just of this evening maybe the entire year okay so well let’s ask the audience what they think as well is it good or

1:00:21gimmick get your things in do you think it’s yeah put in the word good or gimmick now interestingly Ross sand is

1:00:26on and I think we actually spotted Ross had one of these first did we yeah that’s when Rick latched on to it

1:00:33Anderson EV in store we bought it from a well-known uh retail that offers click and collect service that’s why we got

1:00:39our one happen to be open on Sundays as well they do and they now deliver within maybe an hour or less sometimes okay so

1:00:46yeah so um that’s where we got our one from and I think for what we paid for it it wasn’t a lot of money it seemed to do

1:00:52what it suggested but I’m not trying to not trying to influence any people’s great or gimmick getting over the shock you paid

1:00:59for something Gary yes Gordon was on H and Rick was a bit like me in that

1:01:04battery all he did all week was going on about it got to about Thursday I said shall we go and get it are we having one

1:01:10are we get it delivered no no no we went and picked it up got us out didn’t he he was on holiday so yeah fight to eight

1:01:18pick up a tool Ben drop drop it in there how much was it I I want to say something like 89 quid yeah it weren’t a

1:01:25lot of money yeah it wer a lot of money does that include the groinal area clamp add extra just it’s the groinal area

1:01:32yeah I do like that it’s good yeah people like it by the looks of it here but that means nothing because the final

1:01:38decision leave for the embarrassment of joining me on your hands and knees will be yours okay but to do that we’re going

1:01:44to need to get on hands and knees are you going to be able to use the the button for me I’ll be I’ll be in control okay that sounds fantastic

1:01:52that’s let’s give ourselves a little bit bit of room Le so uh no practi wired up wellPlacing the tool on the Tool Wall

1:01:58okay I wired that actually there’s a story it was painful so just just to

1:02:04remind you okay for because you haven’t watched many of these before or sorry S I said many I almost got it right any of

1:02:10these before okay so we’re going to need to hold our hands up in the air we need to courage it down with the following

1:02:17phrase not there we’re not we’re there we’re staggered and we’re going to

1:02:23go yeah imagine people at work they’re going to record this bit snip it out

1:02:29yeah to me on your Christmas card okay ready yeah hands up then and you’re ready and give us one

1:02:35go really that is probably the worst S I didn’t go with you endday you left me

1:02:41hang there yeah did you do a bit of quiring day were you there with your white white full outfit in the day back

1:02:47in there I suppose it’s easier way get the lead off the roof here we go then so here we go ready together we’ll do this one together

1:02:53ready

1:03:01yes we look a right one didn’t we right here we go so take that hold that we’ll send it back up if you can send me back

1:03:07up for me Jimmy here we go so talk me through what the uh yes

1:03:12I’ll talk you through this we’ll have to wait for the loud noise to go up okay so we got rid of the loud noise so what we’ve got here is the toall wall okay

1:03:18we’ve got the toall from above we got the tool wall we have okay we have uh normally normally positioned down here

1:03:25in the B you don’t need to look with the camera because you can’t see down bottom left hand corner down here we have the Makita coffee maker which doesn’t make

1:03:31two cups of coffee in 15 minutes which is traditionally the same length that it takes to have a coffee break on a

1:03:37construction site so you wouldn’t be able to make one for you and your friend and then what we do is we we go from the bottom left hand corner to the top right

1:03:43hand corner where this is number 11 so this is the best thing since slice spread okay right up here in this top

1:03:48corner now if I look above right up here in the top Corner we can clearly see somebody is positioned 11 and 1/2 the

1:03:54coffee maker and I’m going to try and get that down W that was all right a see that

1:04:02you’re welcome yeah okay I used to own used to have the record for the high jump when I was at school I was quite

1:04:08the athlete back in the day now I’ve only got his foot okay so we’re going to position that one down

1:04:13here okay so this is sort of 6 7 8 9 10

1:04:1811 okay and we sort of work our way across the board it’s your choice don’t be influenced by anything else okay put

1:04:24you think it goes so I’m going to go above average okay so that’s about a 6

1:04:30and a half do you reckon yeah 6 and a half to a seven okay all right that’s good your choice so thank you very much for that so what did the audience think

1:04:36they thought it was good yeah yeah I thought I thought for what we paid for it and we did pay for it I thought it was on someone said there’s bound to be

1:04:42one in Costco Z electrical should have gone to Costco I didn’t know they had them in Costco I was in there the other day I didn’t come out with too much

1:04:49random stuff you just tell me the name of that person again what was his name there zi US Electric cuz I got corrected

1:04:54by the great Joe Robinson that I said it wrong what should it be well I don’t know he said some other name he said I’ve got it wrong some sort of color or

1:05:00something or yeah right yeah so he corrected me on National Telly we’ve done him again he’ll be R me up later

1:05:08you oh well Gary I’ve had to correct again hopefully he’s on this evening a trip to Costco are you Costco person um

1:05:15no I I used to go in quite a bit uh but I found myself breathing in more and

1:05:20more um so I’ve stopped going to Costco trying to eat a little bit

1:05:26healthier I don’t go to Costco I just look like it’s natural it’s a natural look naturally athletic okay Costco of

1:05:32course oh okay yeah used to go for all the freebies before they stopped them you know with Co oh they’re back now

1:05:37they’re back yeah I was in there on Sunday you’re not talking about things on cocktail sticks you don’t walk around there trying to get a full meal do

1:05:43you walk out with the cookies yeah okay yeah it goes in through the window

1:05:50that’s they have got them people they have got them in Costco be interested know the Costco prices next time we have

1:05:57a look do random stuff came out with the canoe once what did you go in for toilet

1:06:05roll yeah me okay meanwhile back at the solar install that isn’t solar was fully

1:06:10battery okay so that’s good so we got I think we got new products and we Sun s got a little sneaky we a bit early you went full s

1:06:18pitch early on didn’t you with that one got what is it called just give me the name again uh LifeLink in the ukuk okay

1:06:25it’s been out in South Africa okay where there describe the uh Power Network

1:06:31system out in South Africa someone’s already on and said it’s rubbish you described it it’s a bit like

1:06:37uh popcorn I think was one phrase I used um but yeah in South Africa you you

1:06:44you’re not allowed to export to the grid the grid isn’t stable enough and you probably have five or six power cuts a day is that something yeah so in South

1:06:51Africa you know in the UK we traditionally have uh schedule of when we might put our bins out each week um

1:06:56in South Africa they have a daily schedule of when they have no power so they call it load shedding it’s between

1:07:02one and eight hours and that’s every day so in South Africa if you’ve not got PV and a battery or a massive generator in

1:07:09your back Garden uh you need a lot of candles and Y David Marshall cross on Facebook he’s just back from South

1:07:15Africa has just basically said that yeah they have big problems with yeah massive Lord shedding and big houses have

1:07:20batteries okay and that’s why we’re trying so let’s let’s breing are we no G no no well you met up with Keith down at

1:07:27Sol now if you don’t know anyone who doesn’t know Keith sunn have got a YouTube channel yeah and it’s Keith Keith’s a legend himself on there isn’t

1:07:35he very passionate I would say about about the whole thing yes yeah yeah yeah he’s probably the most passionate CEO uh

1:07:42in the industry so it’s good and a character as well I would like to suggest for you said it yeah he’s an

1:07:47absolute he’s an absolute lovely bloke and I got to spend a few minutes with him uh we cut out a lot of the stuff at the end because he carried on after

1:07:53afterwards but let’s see what uh the the New Life Link looks like something a little bit different for episode threeThe SunSynk LifeLynk

1:08:00of Gary goes green I’ve been joined by Keith go CEO of sunsync but I’ve got

1:08:05some questions from the actual people watching the videos believe it or not and they’ve said to me maybe when I’ve

1:08:10got them my separate inverter and battery in my plant room you know the room that a Bas and a toilet installed

1:08:16maybe that look doesn’t suit them and I see behind me something looks like a massive inverter what’s going on here oh

1:08:21so it’s a lot more than invert it’s all in one year it so this is an inverter B directional inverter with a battery in

1:08:28one so it makes life so easy to install you don’t have to open it up everything is Plug and Play pluged at the bottom

1:08:34and you can parall if you want another one you put another whole system together you can do you can mix and match it so youve got three different

1:08:40sizes so you got two and A2 a three and a/2 a 5 and A2 kilowatt so three

1:08:45different sizes it can mix mix and match any of them okay so when you say that it’s talking about the kilowatt hour rating of the batteries that are built

1:08:51inside of here the whole thing whole thing in there so by doing that I’m going to lose a lot of cables and there

1:08:57no caes so all your switches you’ve got your battery isolator you got your solar isolator you’ve got your Mains

1:09:03protection underneath there your fuse uh you’ve got everything all you want and everything just plugs in you don’t have to open it it’s just snap snap snap snap

1:09:09snap put it on the wall jobs are good and you don’t have to do anything else it’s all in one so this is probably

1:09:15maybe looking at those people where it’s going to be more on show obviously not everyone’s got a plant room and it’s obviously visual there’s nothing that’s

1:09:21not appealing about this it reminds me in some ways of maybe a storage heater if I just turned it around the other way

1:09:26that looks like a storage we used to have one of those in every room and then I’m thinking about maybe the new build

1:09:32so where they’ve obviously going to be put down the solar panel route this is this is going to be great you can sit in the Loft it’s so easy to but it’s the

1:09:38speed of installation so with the traditional maybe take you several hours really my idea and and probably everyone

1:09:44says the comments is no it’s not but I reckon you can fit in an hour all right some of your guys could do it it’s not a

1:09:51race Keith and when I’m thinking about this system if I’m all in one obviously we’re we’re saving lots of other things

1:09:56and when we’re thinking about saving Not Just Energy money money because we’re fitting less stuff the product is cheap

1:10:03in comparison soor value engineered as I always told value engineered but it is it’s a really really well-built piece of

1:10:10kit it’s beautiful if you open it up okay it’s not spent to be opened up it’s sealed but if you if I show you a side

1:10:15one of them you’ll see how well it’s engineered and it is Plug and Play It’s really simple to use okay um it’s got to

1:10:22and you know and the price you compared to a battery inverter protction gear separate cost is much cheaper okay and

1:10:27when we say G we don’t like to talk about price on eix energy or eix but we some links in the description you go

1:10:33over and discover how fantastic this value is this system here thank you ever so much one thing I have to say it’s not

1:10:41raining the sun is shining we’re all winning I bet my app’s winning have I shown you my app should I show you my

1:10:47app I’ve got an app on this it’s really good and you can see how much energy you produced I filled my battery today believe it or not so that’s my solar

1:10:53array that’s it that’s what’s coming in it’s my family’s just come home you can just see a little bit of I was hovering

1:10:59around 185 because in the other video I showed out to re juice my parasitic GL value engineered love it eventually

1:11:07corrected himself I left it in there it’s worth checking it out I mean we don’t do price okay we never do it have

1:11:12we but again go and check it out I haven’t put it in the link in this video that’s going out on eix energy is

1:11:18episode three and we will put some links in there be a first time for eix in yeah

1:11:23I personally think it’s incredible value you can’t say the price either I know you can’t yeah it’s a great piece of kit

1:11:29it’s you know it’s um

1:11:35cheap for what it is value engine value engineering but it’s the same quality

1:11:41that people expect from sunsync you know everything’s in one box but as Keith said you know you’re not paying for all

1:11:48the the the extra the CA in or isolation it’s all in it’s in one box so it’s it’s

1:11:54nice and easy all the connection connections underneath a push fit so it takes so I mean if people are asking I’m

1:12:00I’m looking at it and I’m going I’d usually have to buy an inverter and I’d have to buy a battery so whatever it’s

1:12:07going to be cheaper than those two if you buy buy them separately and then when you buy them separately as we know

1:12:12we’ve got to put all the isolators in the cables and the connectors and everything else so not all of them

1:12:18though don’t go back on what you said before all of them you got to dream up ones that you think you got to have in

1:12:23there sometimes you’ve got to put extra ones in just that you don’t need just to think you’re being compliant yes yes

1:12:29okay it yeah looks great and yeah again it’s brand new isn’t it so people are

1:12:34thinking why did my plant room not have one because my plant room could accommodate two batteries and an inverter so uh how many have you got one

1:12:42at the minute so the Gap by the side of it for the next one okay it’s coming soon I’ll hear but yeah you can see why

1:12:47they can they can be slipped into a kitchen yeah just slipped in there you wouldn’t notice it and I said I use the the analogy of a storage but that’s

1:12:53about right and we used to seeing you know gas boilers Etc we used to seeing one white box somewhere located or in

1:12:59each room for storage it that’s non offive people asked that can you add multiple ones to the same system yeah so

1:13:05you can you can add you can connect the the lifelinks in parallel uh and the one of the other great features is obviously

1:13:11it’s an Allin one unit so you’ve got the inverter and the battery and a contained unit but if someone does want to expand

1:13:17the battery storage they can use our standard Standalone batteries that we have now um and

1:13:24you’ve just got one um you can uh you can use our standard batteries and they can be connected into the all-in-one

1:13:29unit to increase the the battery storage so yeah still still scalable um yeah

1:13:34yeah so plug and play and that’s yeah just as your system grows or you might be exactly the same as me you get one of

1:13:40those and then all of a sudden you start doing a bit of You Want More Energy you’re going to buy it in and all the rest of it yeah you’re off you’re off

1:13:46and running and it can be used without solar can just be used again as a stand low battery system just use an AC couple

1:13:51you know charging from the Grid at the off peak yeah off P rate so and it really is Plug and Play so the AC connector for the

1:13:58grid connection is in the box so you terminate your grid line into that click it in done in an hour I’ve heard an hour

1:14:07I could probably do it in an hour five minutes yeah maybe we need to put it on the electricians yeah yeah yeah yeah

1:14:13well perhaps that would be the new one you imagine that yeah can you fit this in under an hour it’s outrageous if you’re over an hour you call yourself an

1:14:20electrician it you know you do training I’m sure you teach anyone to be fast you just teach them to do it correctly high

1:14:26quality yeah and that’s what we’re paying for aren’t we in this this sector especially I would suggest it is about

1:14:32quality I mean it’s going to be a lot more expensive than two new downloads and three white plastic sockets people

1:14:37expect a level of installation based on what they’re paying as well but who’ have thought we’d have been filling our houses with down lights right you know

1:14:44only 20 25 years ago we we just had a a little lamp in the middle of the room

1:14:50big lights uh a big light put the big light on yeah strip light in the kitchen now

1:14:55yeah as it’s trying to get itself so so yeah I think there’s that normalization what you know 15 years ago you drove

1:15:03down the street and if you saw solar on the roof that was strange you stopped you looked you wonder what it was

1:15:09there’s now about one and a half million systems installed and we don’t think anything of it and it’s almost become

1:15:14the new normal and I think a lot of this technology as it evolves will become the new normal for for lots of reasons not

1:15:20release the the issues we have with the Y grid connectivity um for for a lot of things

1:15:26we’re wanting to do like EV like heat pumps it’s interesting because you know

1:15:31you do drive down the road and I do it I’m sure other people do especially electrical industry and look at how many roofs and it seems a lot but count the

1:15:37amount that haven’t got it they’re all opportunities now might be opportunities we can’t see because they might only have a battery system but we’re looking

1:15:44at the few still it feels like one and a half million people in my town have got it but that’s not the case is it because

1:15:51it’s we did a we did a survey in the better part of Skipton just as a quick one for a video we’re making and I’d say

1:15:57it’s about 5% if you’re lucky yeah I don’t know what the real don’t there’s any that’s my unofficial walking down

1:16:03the street survey yeah you’re all right in sales all right for I’m just

1:16:09concentrating on my seven megawatt yeah so plenty of opportuni is what would’ say yeah plenty of opportunity there

1:16:15yeah even people with older systems to add batteries in and stuff like that yeah there’s plenty of opportunities a lot of people have said to us didn’t

1:16:21they oh they feel that they’ve missed the opportunity oh I missed the one for for Eevee I feel like I’ve missed the one for Sol ain’t started yet no hasn’t

1:16:28even started so uh yeah that’s uh that’s all good so that was a good catch up with

1:16:33Keith as well he should have been here today shouldn’t he we’ve said before where is he somewhere nice is he somewhere where it’s not raining someone

1:16:39spoted that in the comments is that a Keith thing is it about the rain is it yeah normally when Keith does a video it’s raining uh so the rain follows him

1:16:46round I think was on a sunb it’ probably be raining well he’s in ten Reef so I hope he’s absolutely hammering down who

1:16:52would would have their call center anywhere you’d have it in tener when he out there no doubt keeping up to keeping them up to speed with the latest things

1:16:59in a call center in ten how lovely I think he’s in I think the I think battery can be yeah he’s in there

1:17:05battery can be unplugged inside there so yeah can it be installed outside the

1:17:11LifeLink no no so it’s an interior yeah indoor um have you got systems that can be installed outside yeah so all our

1:17:17standard range of hybrid inverters so every single one that we do is ip65 um we we have two different

1:17:24batteries on our low voltage so we have an ip65 model uh hopefully the one next to your toilet uh and we also have an

1:17:31ip21 so we yeah got a does it need to be ip65 next to your

1:17:38toilet judge everybody on your own accuracy here folks it’s quite a large Target you know get I’m never at home so

1:17:46it won’t make any difference to me so uh yeah suspect Paul Renard’s fitted some of these he’s saying it’s good for off

1:17:51grid sites yeah yeah again with our standard range of hybrid inverter the LifeLink can be used Off Grid it’s got that dedicated UPS low

1:17:59Port so a little bit more for us there off grid exp give me a connected to

1:18:05understand what that is give me give me a practical working example then where are okay thank you very much that’s

1:18:10where we need to go so yeah that’s what we said earlier didn’t we that you know you got that option for those systems to

1:18:16go on there site cabins as well I spoke to somebody recently who specializes in providing generator backup or generator

1:18:23to supplies to to mobile work sites um and they were talking about completely

1:18:28shifting away from G diesel gen sets and just putting containerized storage there

1:18:33taking it back to the yard charging it up dropping it on site and providing the power for the site totally silent and

1:18:39Emissions free at the point of use yeah even like you know Garden out buildings if someone’s got a decent sized Garden

1:18:46having a LifeLink unit in there um you know by the time youve paid for the cost of having your EST wa run out to to

1:18:54garden shed um he said he wasn’t technical I just only said that when I

1:18:59was doing the challenge um so yeah you know you could make your garden building completely off grid you know two or

1:19:05three panels on the roof with one of the LifeLink units um and you you’ve not got the expense of paying for the

1:19:11infrastructure to that Garden building yeah so it’s but but those temporary supplies can be really

1:19:17expensive as well a temporary supply for a building site it’s like Ransom money to get one of those in

1:19:23yeah temporary supply to the grid but also the temporary generator supplies because they’ve all got to be serviced

1:19:28the oil’s got to be disposed of the The Machine’s got to be taken out of service so yeah really interesting stuff

1:19:34happening in in that market in the same way that if we scale it right back down to the small domestic Market as well

1:19:40when you have that instantaneous amount of power available suddenly you might start to overcome some of those previous

1:19:47issues encountered with the grid saying you can’t connect this to the system and the one thing that’s jumping out at us

1:19:53now all the time is heat pumps where people are looking to increase the load on a domestic dwelling by maybe 2 or 3

1:20:00kilow to accommodate a heat pump of a particular size maybe right up to about six kilow or five or six kilowatts for a

1:20:06really large singlephase heat pump and now the grid are saying well we’re not sure we don’t really want that on that

1:20:12particular area in that uh on on our network but how about now we start to think about coupling in um something

1:20:19like the LifeLink to able to give us that ex 3.65 KW of of output and just

1:20:26wiring the heat pump straight through that so now we’re not taking that demand from the grid and we just trickle

1:20:32charged that gently away on a really nice agile tariff uh so we’re also

1:20:37benefiting from that what did we see the rates were there about 7.2 P so even on a really badly

1:20:44installed heat pump um with a scop of three it’s efficiency of 300% we’re

1:20:49going to be talking about something like 2.4 Pence per unit of energy delivered to the home

1:20:56which is about five times cheaper than natural gas that’s where your cost recovery can really start to come in and

1:21:02as the contractors the electrical contractors we’re going to have to get a lot more involved in that sort of side

1:21:08of things when looking at people electrifying the heat in their their homes some great piss in there I mean

1:21:14that section there just got me sitting there buzzing that Standalone building just to give it you know a Life Link and

1:21:20a few panels it just yeah it’s a solution that you wouldn’t even have thought about 15 minutes ago for me but

1:21:27you know a couple you know it wasn’t even on the radar was it to actually make it stand on its own and that’s about so let’s imagine I might know the

1:21:34answer but let’s imagine I don’t so okay just said what happens when the batter is full and I haven’t been to that Standalone building and the sun’s still

1:21:41beating down on the roof what’s happening to that energy then so with solar um if the batter’s full and

1:21:46there’s no export to the grid no cuz we’re not connected to the grid the solar production just it just it dials back so um

1:21:53yeah it’s if the it could be the sunniest day of the year if the system’s got a potential to generate three

1:21:58kilowatt but the load inside that building is only 200 Watts the PV will only generate 200 Watts okay what they

1:22:05need to do G’s go out and buy another air [Laughter] fryer second second episode I don’t know

1:22:12it’s going out yet do we it’s ready and ready to put it out so you know on the eix energy yeah I go into those

1:22:18parasitic loads I’ll show you I’ve changed my habits and stuff like that it’s going to be a good journey this is It’s going be a good journey you’re

1:22:23going to Agile you’re going to have to change it back though yeah well yeah can use still there i’ got two ovens they’re

1:22:28still they’re primed and ready for yeah two ovens you’ve only got one battery yeah I know yeah you can imagine the how

1:22:35how I feel that I can cook yeah cook in two ovens with only one battery if you put a live link and you said you could potentially power maybe you know three

1:22:42air fryers at once yeah love it I like it but no again coupled with because heat pumps coming next we think this is

1:22:49the big thing heat pumps are coming it’s inevitable I know people say won’t eat anything up and you’re living cuz he you

1:22:55should go heat pump next Gary we’ll see we’ll see my pipes we’ve had this conversation yeah my pipes are my

1:23:01biggest problem they bigger job to replace them not that bigger job to replace them what about replacing all

1:23:07the ones in your house you might not need to we could do a separate episode on that yeah but okay okay but they go

1:23:12through they go through web joist and they just lay there so as they hit that pressure need to replace them just do

1:23:18that again just do that the pressure no you know they flick now when they come on you hear them dunk DK you know when I

1:23:25start having them yeah going in there yeah we need to talk okay yeah okay okay

1:23:30this is an electrical channel so PA yeah we’re not heat pumps and and energy

1:23:36storage is is a really really obvious combination that that I think the industry as a whole is missing really um

1:23:44yes there’s some Capital cost to it there’s lots of big players coming into the market though who maybe aren’t even

1:23:49charging people up front for the cost of the heat pump um they’re doing it on a sort of rental basis so um on that basis

1:23:56you might be paying a pound or two extra a month to incorporate a battery you’ll have a fraction of a running cost and

1:24:02it’s all coming down to the electrical contractor on site knowing about these systems working with people like sunsync

1:24:09to make sure they’ve got that tool bag of solutions they can bring to the customer property just stinks of

1:24:15opportunity all the time done every bit of this you should not be anywhere near anything that comes across a counter and

1:24:21he’s covered in white plastic really should you know you should be jumping all over this now the the best and

1:24:26easiest way to save energy has always been staring Us in the face and for the past 20 years obviously we’ve been

1:24:33delving into saving energy but it’s it’s it’s time to revisit something you’re comfortable with G oh lights yes let’s

1:24:39have a look at some lights bit some lead little bit of relaxed while we look at lights well welcome to the Last ChanceDitch the flourescent tubes – New reinvention from Ledvance

1:24:46Saloon why do we call it the Last Chance Saloon well it’s congratulations to anybody who’s made it this far and

1:24:52they’re still looking after installations that have old lighting technology in like the hid lamp like

1:24:58these compact fluorescent lamps and that old favorite the 2D yeah and the

1:25:03advantage of changing over from that Old technology it puts a little bit of extra cash in our pocket so maybe I could buy

1:25:09a drink at your Last Chance Saloon there Gordon well yes but even if you’ve managed to keep on to those you’ve got a

1:25:14massive store of lamps tued away in the corner of your Workshop that excuse is rapidly fading away because obviously

1:25:20the manufacturer of flues tubes has now been banned and those stocks are going to be diminishing you are going to have

1:25:26to finally move over to LED but luckily the good people at ladance have almost

1:25:32reinvented every single lamp class that we’ve had since the dawn of the lighting Edge in an LED format so it is really

1:25:40easy to do those upgrades yeah and we still spot them out and about don’t we we all do that all I noticed they’ve got

1:25:45an old forent tube and all the rest of it but when it comes to lead Vance can you give us a little bit of a history behind the name Gordon okay so lead

1:25:52Vance came around when ozam sold their lamp business to lead Vance but they

1:25:57carried on using the ozam name but it’s just now they finally transitioned so all products now will come branded as

1:26:05lead Vance but in reality you’ve been buying lean products for quite some time

1:26:10but now the packaging reflects it and it’s still that same familiar orange color that goes back to the dawn of

1:26:16lightting time this is my kind of electrical work it is you only have to unscrew the original lamp or pull it out

1:26:21from its con Con in pins and introduce the new energy efficient one and as an electrician I can just walk away knowing

1:26:28that I’ve done my bit for both the environment and putting money back in people’s pockets yeah and it does really

1:26:33fast payback lighting is one of the fastest energy paybacks you can ever have but however what I’m thinking of

1:26:39placing old and inefficient things Gary we’d like to replace you especially now you’ve talked about that complex solar

1:26:47and battery storage I think we’ll cut back to that but let’s not forget this is the easy way to save energy and it’s

1:26:53very cost effective if you got a problem replacing a lamp maybe it’s time that you call the team at ladance sounds a

1:27:00bit like The A Team intro that Gary yeah you wouldn’t be face though would you no you’ve got a whiff a Murdock about you

1:27:05hey I’m crazy you slip back nicely into the world of lightting there didn’t you so

1:27:12uh the easiest way to save energy So oam’s Gone Lance in yes it’s all what Wass now lead Vance okay that’s good

1:27:19well yeah be informed be understanding lamps great w they all look like what we’re so used to seeing but Energy

1:27:26Efficiency and I’m amazed how many lamps are still out there when you look around yeah yeah yeah yeah we we do that often when we’re out don’t we okay so that’s

1:27:33good so we we’re up to speed with that we got some great stuff there have some great questions in where do you want to go next Gordon uh well let’s knock off

1:27:39some of the technical ones that we get a few times of uh obviously a lot of people have got Legacy solar systemsFeed In tariffs

1:27:45yeah and there’s a great one if you’re driving back over that way as you go through con back in the day there must have been a great sales guy cuz there’s

1:27:50a ROV and Bungalows North faing yeah they’ve all they probably are actually

1:27:57they’ve all got solar on so someone probably went in and sold them can we borrow your roof yeah um adding

1:28:04batteries to existing feed in tariff properties yeah so you do it so um back

1:28:10in the day do sound old saying that now you are uh when there was the feeding tariff which used to pay people for

1:28:17everything that the site was generating so not just what it was feeding back into the grid so had a really horrible

1:28:24name because everybody thought it was about what was going back um there was feeding Ty to pay for everything that was generated and then paid for an

1:28:31amount that was exported usually that was deemed half that was exported um

1:28:37loads of those systems still around now there’s probably about 900 950,000 of

1:28:42those systems registered so awful lot out there um and a lot of those people now very Savvy customers earning lots of

1:28:49money Gary at what they’re doing uh now wanting to look at fitting battery storage so on the face of it that’s a

1:28:56really good sensible option but what you’ve got to be really careful of is that bearing in mind that they have a

1:29:02meter fitted next to the inverter which is telling um the customer that’s needed

1:29:09right in this case just got it’s really loud like got one that’s needed uh and that’s

1:29:15counting all the energy that’s pushing back from the inverter up into the house or into the grid and that the bit that

1:29:22you get paid for so then imagine a scenario where what we do is we we decide to maybe either change the

1:29:28inverter or somehow configure the batteries onto the side of the inverter

1:29:33that’s Downstream from that meter so now at that point what could happen using

1:29:38something like agile is you then start charging up uh the battery storage from

1:29:44an off peak tariff and the electricity is going so of the reverse through the the generation meter and then when you

1:29:51discharge those batteries now it’s going to start clocking that meter up and

1:29:56imagining that you’re producing a a feeding tariff eligible payment which

1:30:02obviously they’re not very keen on people doing because in Winter and I’m not suggesting you do this going uh with

1:30:07a feed in tariff installation you could just sit there and just charge it up all day they’ve no idea how much Energy’s

1:30:12gone that way into the batteries and then you can discharge it and get paid what you know certainly a lot of people

1:30:19are getting sort of 55 65 p a unit now if they’re in at the very very early

1:30:24stage so one way of getting around that is by doing something called net

1:30:29metering um and if people don’t want to do just a standalone inverter and Battery setup you could have a net meter

1:30:36so you swap out that meter that’s being installed and now you have a meter that’s capable of measuring the energy

1:30:43both directions so both going up and when it’s feeding the battery storage and what’s being exported back one’s

1:30:50deducted from the other and and then the the net figure is the one that you use for your feeding tariff payments but you

1:30:56do have to get in touch with your feeding tariff provider uh make sure that they’re happy with any proposed

1:31:02alterations and if you follow one of the standard Arrangements which this is probably the most common uh within the

1:31:08off gem guidance you shouldn’t have any problems what what about sorry to interrupt um you’ve got your traditional

1:31:14string inverter where they getting their feeding tariff and then they’ve got the generation meter What if after that on

1:31:21the AC line that was chopped essentially and AC coupled into an additional

1:31:26inverter so so it’s all relative to where the generation meter is so if that’s between the generation meter and

1:31:34the distribution board okay i’ I’d be thinking a little bit about the load on the cable and and the current flow and

1:31:41the protection so let’s imagine it’s actually con connected back at the distribution board um there’s still a

1:31:47right for them to be made aware of it because it’s still a change in use but actually that would say sale straight through and and shouldn’t present any

1:31:54problems at all but that is then another inverter and the thing that people really struggle with at that point is

1:32:01it’s not all on one app or one means of being able to see exactly what’s going

1:32:06on when you do that as well you usually end up with multiple CT clamps and if anybody’s ever come along an

1:32:12installation where you’ve got an original PV system you’ve got an EV charger you’ve got a uh another AC thing

1:32:20you suddenly have all these CT clamps together and I think a lot of people don’t realize that that can actually cause some um interference issues on its

1:32:28own just having multiple CT clamps on the same line so my recommendation is always try and go net metering uh and

1:32:35and if you can get it harmonized around one ecosystem like the Sun s Camp uh app

1:32:41so you can see what’s going on across the whole setup yeah good information yeah obviously we’re saying you’ve got

1:32:48to tell them what if someone just put I’m just saying that there might be some from

1:32:53Liverpool sometimes sometimes you get some dishonest yeah you get some dishonest I mean there’s people who fit

1:32:59s of stuff in and don’t even register it no yeah apparently same happens on EV

1:33:04charges I’ve heard just fit these things and don’t fill in the paperwork would you believe that come what the chances

1:33:11so does anyone actually ever check those meters so what what they will do is if that starts to um overclock too much

1:33:18they know what everybody should be generating over a particular period so at some point it’ll get flagged um back

1:33:26in the early days of feeding tariff we we do know some people who created AC to

1:33:31DC Transformers Right and started if as it were overclocking their um uh their systems

1:33:39by just wiring that up into a spare mppt on the underside of the inverter um but the energy companies did get get

1:33:45switched onto that quite quickly in the same way as they would do um with normal domestic usage they know what the

1:33:51average consumption profile is if it goes up usually there’s two or three people will come around and check and

1:33:57see what’s being grown in The Loft you’re right they do cuz I’m I’m on feeding tariff for biomass and as soon

1:34:03if you put a reading in it out of kilter with previous years you get a lead box you have to you have to fess up and

1:34:09explain why it might be a little bit different it’s it’s been a bit colder yeah yeah working at home a bit more

1:34:16than I was last year that was the one that went in this oh right okay oh yeah okay yeah so they do they do question it

1:34:21but I guess yeah if you if you so so okay this is again for Gary yeah so I haven’t told or have I told my Energy

1:34:28company would he have done that through MCS should have done yeah he’s done the MCS form so my Energy company be aware

1:34:35that my bill might come down so they won’t be thinking Gary’s fiddle in the meter yeah so so they they because

1:34:43there’s no regulated payment structure going to at the moment because you’re not on feeding tariff they probably

1:34:48won’t be too concerned what you might see though going going into the winter months is they’ll want to actually have

1:34:54um more in terms of a standing order a direct debit for that energy bill um going forwards then you’ll actually end

1:35:01up having especially if you start charging off peak you can reduce that bill to well you’ve seen around about a

1:35:08third or a quarter of of what you might expect okay depends where I’m in the series whether I’ll get to it this winter yeah that’s where we’re going to

1:35:14get to yeah okay so yeah okay so they can yeah see that makes sense don’t it I want to see how many kilowatt hours I’ve

1:35:20actually used that’s the next thing to actually not not look at price prices are relevant to it it’s the number of

1:35:25kilowatt hours you reduce comparison November last year to November this year see what the impact is it’s good any

1:35:31other great questions coming through there before we move on uh what’s so it’s interesting there’s 950,000 feed in

1:35:36tariff in store that’s a good opportunity for you there you go you should be out Keith I think Keith’s already spoted it he’s he’s expecting

1:35:43the order for the seven megaw of storage in the Craven District by Monday and

1:35:49they’ll need some more trained installers though so let’s not forget that that is that is

1:35:54the just just to keep people on and interested talking about trained installers some part of the show maybe

1:36:01towards the end we’re going to talk about training maybe people with the the skills to do Roofing and solar we’re

1:36:08going to we’re going to leave it a we’re going to leave it a fer on that for a minute there so if you think it’s bad

1:36:13enough they do a six week course to become electrician you see how quickly you can get roffers to do solar down to

1:36:18that later on in the show okay uh another g99 so how does g99 work with

1:36:24solar and batteries okay I’ll take that one yeah

1:36:29yeah so on the g99 it’s all about asking the dno for permission uh whether you can have a certain capacity within the

1:36:36building um allowed and whether it works within the grid so for instance if it’s

1:36:41on a g98 if it’s 3.6 kilow or under it’s absolutely fine don’t need to sign uh

1:36:47it’s a sign and notify mhm uh rather than ask for permission and be allowed but anything over 3.6 is

1:36:55where g99 comes in and you have to ask for permission first from the dno and they will then tell you yeah within the

1:37:01network that we have available we’re happy for you to have 5 kilow on the property or 8 kilowatt on the property

1:37:08Etc um so that’s what g99 is what is a

1:37:13specific question on it when obviously had batteries to it so say you’ve got a g99 approval for an 8 kilowatt system

1:37:19yeah and you add in it depends how batter it depends how the batteries are connected so if you added if you had

1:37:24approval for an 8 Kow sunsync inverter and had no batteries then you could connect batteries directly to the 8

1:37:30kwatt and not have to apply for any other certificate from the g99 if you

1:37:35had a system in already that was a string inverter and then you wanted to fit batteries you would then have to add

1:37:41another inverter in and it’s the inverter that the dno is bothered about so it’s the inverter size they want to

1:37:47know how much you can bring in and out into the house in AC right so if you had adjust the battery store separate an AC

1:37:53couple battery in the so you had eight in theory the inverter could pump out 8 Kow yes and then you could pump out

1:37:59another five or six kilow from the battery then you’re breaking the g99 yeah your separate systems like I say if

1:38:05you had an 8 Kow string inverter no batteries connected at all connected and it was approved for 8 kwatt and then you

1:38:11had you wanted 5 Kow AC coupled or 5 Kow battery you’d have to have another inverter installed and then that 5 K

1:38:20inverter that you’ve got installed there would then need approval as well as it’s another source essentially eight and

1:38:26five you you’re having a total of 13 kilow in the house rather than eight right now we spoke to an installer that

1:38:32that did your roof and he’s he obviously goes on the new hous in the states and starts mopping up these uh installations

1:38:40and oh they’ve just obviously as we know when someone gets Sol they bore the pants off the neighbors and stuff like

1:38:45that with the app leaning over the you’re lucky you don’t talk to your neighbor he’s got Sol and then obviously

1:38:50the next house gets it and the next House are there instances where people are running where they’re quickly

1:38:56running out of Capac that’s interesting because Gary just says there that his neighbor has got solar yeah um that

1:39:02would automatically take you outside of the dno install and notify because what

1:39:08g98 actually says is if there are uh generators small scaled embedded generators within close geographical

1:39:16proximity which is a really broad term but essentially what they’re trying to get at is is um connected to the same

1:39:23Transformer in the same area um then that’s something that they will probably want to know about first before you

1:39:31connect now the good news is although that sounds really complicated um there’s a lot of DN dsos out there who

1:39:38now do this on a FastTrack basis the bad news is that lots of DN do it

1:39:44differently so it can be a bit of a headache if you’re Contracting within several DSO areas to to actually get

1:39:51your head around what each one of them may or may not allow so I should have asked permission even just to put my

1:39:57small one on quite probably just depending what the uh grid arrangement I

1:40:03did one it’s it’s one that that is is frequently not fully comprehended everybody just automatically goes to the

1:40:103.68 16 amps per phase uh and that’s fantastic um but there’s other things as

1:40:16well if you look down the really complicated D DN DSO flow chart it’s like has is there EV charges there Etc

1:40:23there’s all sorts of reasons which may require prior approval the even better news apart from the FastTrack stuff is

1:40:31that the ENA the energy Network Association who are the people the sort of trade body for all of the dsos in the

1:40:38country they’re introducing a digital platform which is being piloted this December so coming into sort of the

1:40:45start or middle of next year as an installer you’ll have access to to various partner platforms which allow

1:40:52you to go on and go this is Gary’s house I want to put this on can I do it and it’ll come back and tell you instantly

1:40:58whether you can or can’t and what level of connection you’ll be permitted to have well that’s that’s brand new news

1:41:04to me was that new to you uh the some there’s one Northern power grid have got quite a good digital platform okay

1:41:10basically just says no everything you can do a um on the

1:41:16Northern power grid one we did it in our cable connection scanning video you can log in tell you where the cables on you

1:41:22can draw in where you want to do a new connection and it tells you what cables are loaded up in the area so you can

1:41:27estimate to get to a green cable it’ll cost you £700,000 and you just put a you

1:41:33put a battery in that’s why there’s going to be seven batteries down here by Monday the level of detail they going into is actually going to capture an EV

1:41:39charger of X and a heat pump of Y and sometimes it’s not just looking at the

1:41:45the maximum demand sometimes it’s looking at the associated harmonics that come from some of those digital

1:41:51devices connected to get on his we did we did that when we didn’t get any tools out so

1:41:58just go back to sha Sha’s doing a very large estate in the South okay maybe in around the London area and he’s he’s

1:42:04around this CAC or large cisac they’ve got some very large properties over 20 panels under g99 and and he’s going in

1:42:11and like he said he does one he does an x one he’s done five six in this coldest sacki area he said I’m concerned that

1:42:18the last person to say the last three they’ll actually say you know all of a sudden now if everybody was out some was

1:42:26beating down everybody was exporting that the actual Transformer in reverse

1:42:31the windings couldn’t take the actual uh load that was being put on in the opposite direction so he says every time

1:42:38I put one in now the more and more I get he says I’m waiting for that one where they say no I got to go back to a customer and say no you can’t because of

1:42:44OB see yeah that so Pro probably James should have gone there first and sold a system to everybody in the cuac first

1:42:52and then they could have worked out exactly what the overall connection was with a centralized storage with centralized storage container he can do

1:42:59that in a day communial area there’s a somewhere for the children to play large steel play I hear with security as well

1:43:07yeah so so we can fit a slide to but but there something I

1:43:13comprehended until he said it so once he said that I was like well makes logical sense now doesn’t it that you know you’ve got all of these large power

1:43:19plants it’s someone’s going to be unhappy some so well so I’m thinking there Gary i’ be thinking of the future

1:43:25you’d be thinking you’ve just moved into a new house I’ll just bang that application in anywh and not fit the stuff yeah be the yeah yeah yeah so it

1:43:34can be a real issue I mean a new housing estate that should be taken care of by whoever’s doing the grid connection

1:43:40application it’s fair ID or or an IDE know I I mean they

1:43:46should be aware of what’s being connected should be the operative word there but yeah and the same as when

1:43:52you’re applying for a connection for an upgraded Supply at some point that balance will be tipped and and that

1:43:58person the nth person is now going to have to pay for a substantial grid upgrade to get what they need unless

1:44:06perhaps they start looking at trickle charging battery storage systems and nice Segway there we go yeah that’s good

1:44:14okay been been away a you recently I have just changing the changing the tone of this yeah little I have a littleGordon’s been on holiday (again) What did he find?

1:44:19holiday snap obvious holiday what do we get up to on holiday I was to stick my head in a local consumer unit so I was

1:44:25back in uh back in Italy and found a little Innovation so let’s have a look

1:44:31oh no so well just hold this Photograph here for a minute was it cold in it’s got whiff of whiff of AI about this

1:44:36hasn’t it because the color palette is amazing we’ve got a dark gray door in the background got a dark gray jacket on

1:44:42the gentleman got a light gray to the wall we got a light gray t-shirt and haircut as well he light gray the same

1:44:48as the breakers yeah so it’s it’s yeah it’s very on Trend that picture you wore colors to match the fabric of the

1:44:54building I love it yeah so what were you fiddling around in there young man just a little consumer well I found actually

1:45:00in one in one Bard this little thing here called a pry cam oh yeah the holiday wasn’t in the

1:45:08bathroom area was it this PR cam no but cams not his camera connected Asset Management so this is I think this a

1:45:15great little idea um so this is a monitor that sits in the in the consume unit and mon has all the electrical

1:45:21parameters to do with the installation okay um and I thought the interesting one if you flip to the next one please

1:45:28scan that QR code please SC that QR code please SC that QR code they might be a to hack into your your own system y uh

1:45:34so this the sort of things it it measures so obviously powers and easy one things like that but it’ll give you a measurement remotely of things like

1:45:40Earth leakage uh the leakage current okay uh Earthly resistance because

1:45:46obviously most of ital is on TT systems things that’s that’s a that

1:45:52could be a useful thing isn’t it temperature down the bottom there device temperature okay so so will that monitor

1:45:58the the when you say device is that like the whole enclosure or it’s individual device the temperature in the enclosure so there’s all these things we’ve been

1:46:03worried about you know about obviously fully loaded Breakers and dissipation of heat and that so this device here could

1:46:10look as if it’s a little bit of an intelligence how much is that going to cost us about 200 when I looked at there air fryer or yeah air fryer or a fifth

1:46:18of a battery well not quite mine was a little bit deer than that yeah so uh that’s that’s clever I like that yeah so

1:46:25what do people think about that non ABB device fitted inside an ABB enclosure

1:46:31can we ask them in the comments and see what they say that’ll be that’ll be straight in there I mean someone’s already spotted it’s a type AC rcd which

1:46:37you still can use in Italy that’s the thing and then obviously people are beat up RC well no it’s all yeah they’re all

1:46:44um you can do anything out there anything in there have you seen some of those boards

1:46:51there he’s out in Italy now yeah doing these old pizzas but is cuz obviously

1:46:56few things that happen in Italy they’ve got really skinny power supply so you’ve only got three or six kilow as the

1:47:01standard Supply so they used to just things tripping off everywhere so getting a little bit of an alert that

1:47:07you’re up at a power limit or you’re approaching a power limit can help but I think obviously we’re starting to worry

1:47:13about pen faults here yeah you think that that would spot one would it because he monitoring the current in the neutral in the earth it’ll measure the

1:47:19difference between the um the CPC and the neutral will do so they give you

1:47:25early warning that you maybe you got a bit of a problem all these EV charger ones most of them are doing that aren they they’re measuring the difference

1:47:30they’re measuring for high and low voltage so yeah yeah so there’s there’s a debate isn’t it people saying you should fit a pen F at the origin of a

1:47:37supply I’m up for that and um that company’s just um launched one haven’t

1:47:42they um Matty have done a unit Haven little monitor your from inside of the

1:47:47meter box yeah yeah that’s what it should be yeah yeah it should you know if we we’re solving their problem their

1:47:54kit should be in their box yeah unless the door blows off and it’s our box different story okay yeah that’s good so

1:47:59that was a little bit of innovation you found bit of innovation we’ll see see what people think we might try and get one in yeah uh the only problem is I

1:48:05think it’s only rated at 40 amps because the suppli is absolutely na that’s probably why right uh mix and

1:48:13match isn’t a problem in Australia either so there we go apparently but they’ve got spiders

1:48:19things like that right so I’ll could do with a little bit of little bit of a break here and before

1:48:25we your segment’s actually next young man I’ll give you a little bit time to think about maybe your choices in life

1:48:31and how you spent time in front of maybe people who install slate and ceramic and

1:48:37maybe clay tiles for a living that was a that was a workshop we did wasn’t it weekend we’ll get yeah I wouldn’t have

1:48:43thought it took a weekend but we’ll come back to that but we we’ we’ve cashed in we see a lot of people coming through

1:48:49without much say thought we’ve got for our for our bin is it time to find out

1:48:55first of all I just want to say first of all we need to segue in with a little bit of sweeping up okay so have we gotJames sweeps up

1:49:02any footage of anyone sweeping up there it is oh we all say the slowest sweeps up it’s a

1:49:08fix fix my wife’s going to uh my wife’s going to see this and

1:49:14U yeah you do look I never ask you to sweep up again at home so uh so obviously you and the Bim

1:49:22was empty I think I think you heard it a lot of distance before you hit the bottom there was a thud there was a thud

1:49:27because we’ve empted it yeah so that means we’ve got a we got to come up with a segment for Joe this week so Joe’s

1:49:33been on interviewing so let’s cut to the footage who’s turning up at eix today looks like it’s the team from GreenWe’ve cashed our greencable bin

1:49:39cable come to collect our bin so quick before they get here better collect that last little bit so we can make sure to fill it up to the top so let’s go and

1:49:45meet who’s turned up so I’m here with Ed from Green cable and it is time for the eix team to cash

1:49:51in on this bin for our Channel viewers that don’t know what this bin is Ed can you just give us a brief summary of what it does green cable is basically a

1:49:58scrapyard on wheels for trade professionals electricians notably are really quite guilty of leaving scrap

1:50:04Cable in skips or on site or just throwing it away all together and obviously there’s valuable material in

1:50:10there notably copper and we saw a great opportunity to start helping them recycle it but also cashing on it

1:50:17because it is obviously worth decent amount of money yeah so we it’s a brilliant idea here at eix we absolutely love watching people tidy up their cable

1:50:24after completing the challenge Ro and put it in here obviously our cor viewers are electricians would you say they are

1:50:29your biggest customers so electricians were our main focus originally however in the last 18 months we’ve really

1:50:34Diversified with plumbers heating Engineers manufacturers and now most recently the BBC and the NHS it’s great

1:50:42how you branching out into different sectors whereabouts are you based and how far do you actually cover so we’re based in canuk just outside Birmingham

1:50:49and we started out covering around a 20 km radius when we first started the business a few years ago but we’re now

1:50:55reaching around 80 to 100 kilometers in total from there so we’re now reaching as far north as Manchester Liverpool and

1:51:03surrounding areas across to Nottingham and down to Leicester and then also

1:51:09we’re covering the north cot world so chelham and siren cester along there so

1:51:15really quite a large area what’s important to us right now is if you’re interested in using the service and we

1:51:20can’t get to you please still sign up because wherever there’s a waiting list we will then expand into there once the

1:51:25demand is present that is quite a big growth in range considering you’ve only been operating for two years let’s say

1:51:30that I’m an electrician Who currently takes my scub to the scrapyard what would make me make the switch to your

1:51:36service good question so you already know there’s value in the cable you want to be responsible and make sure it gets

1:51:41recycled green cable is a really convenient service and obviously enables you as an electrician to store the scrap

1:51:48safely and cleanly at home or work but as well as that it’s also factoring in your time now our prices are incredibly

1:51:56competitive in many cases we actually pay as much if not more than Regional scrapyards believe it or not there’s a

1:52:01great statistic where we’ve generally worked out that in cases where scrapyards pay a little bit more than us

1:52:07the price difference of an average bin for an electrician is about 8 to 14 now

1:52:14when you factor in the time it takes to load that material into the van go down to the scrapyard

1:52:20wait in a queue get served come back maybe it’s a couple of hours I don’t know what the average hourly rate is for

1:52:25an electrician but I’m sure it’s more than that so after that I’m sure quite a lot of you are enticed to sign up to receive one of these bins let’s say that

1:52:32I wanted to sign up is there a minimum frequency that you come to collect these yeah so we want to encourage as many

1:52:37customers as possible to start using the service and to receive one of our bins generally if you’re not filling a bin

1:52:42within a year ideally twice a year or more is what we recommend for new customers who want to start using the

1:52:49service however I would say that a number of customers have signed up received their bin and expected to only

1:52:54fit it around once a year the funny thing about these bins that does change the fundamental habits of trade

1:53:01professionals because as soon as you know you’ve got effectively a cash machine at home that all you need to do

1:53:06is fill it up with nonfer scrap cable Copper Brass whatever it might be you

1:53:11know it’s going to generate money for you and you suddenly start becoming magnetized to waste on site and out and

1:53:16about dayto day yeah funny you mentioned cash because I think it might be time to take a look in arbin we’ve had it for

1:53:21about 5 months so should we step up and have a look how much we’ve got let’s do it okay let’s open it up and see what we’ve got excellent so first of all big

1:53:30green tick F filling it to the top that is a prerequisite for using our collection service obviously we need to

1:53:36make sure the value is there to make it worthwhile for us to come out and collect so well done on that now I see a

1:53:42variety of cable types in here generally multicore so falling under the household

1:53:47cable category and then paying accordingly for that yeah obviously we can see some armored in here and what

1:53:54we’d do with that is we’d pull it out when we take it out to the vehicle and we’ weigh that separately because it

1:53:59carries a lower price than the standard cable okay so you’d recommend that people separate that beforehand yeah it

1:54:04helps our team a lot if the armored is maybe in a pile or reel next to the bin

1:54:09or um separated somehow in the bin uh itself then that’s fine because some

1:54:14customers will put armored in the bottom and then household and other cable types in the top no obligation at the end of

1:54:21the day for us it’s only an extra couple of minutes and if it’s easier for you as the customer just to bung it all in

1:54:26absolutely fine should we get on the van and see how much it’s worth let’s do it let’s go so what we do now is we get

1:54:32your bin onto our vehicle to weigh the material any idea what you think this is

1:54:37weighing in at my guess will be about 55 kg right okay I’ll tell you an interesting game we play with customers

1:54:42the customer makes a guess of what it weighs however many kilos they are off they have to do the same number of press

1:54:49UPS okay you look like a fit bloke I’m sure you can manage it would you like to change your guess I think I’m going to stick with my 55 yeah okay I’ll take

1:54:56part in this game I’m going to go 65 let’s see how we got on so we’ll just turn the scales on so

1:55:02don’t be alarmed the bin weighs 10 kilos and we take that off the total weight

1:55:08the number is showing what Joe 87 at the moment therefore minus the 10 is 77 and

1:55:13what was your guess 55 now my math isn’t the best but I believe that totals 22

1:55:20press UPS it is indeed and I’m not very happy about that but a promise so after the bad news of having to do 22 press

1:55:26UPS I think I’m now ready for the good news so let’s find out how much our scrap is worth so Joe to confirm we have

1:55:3277 kilos of household Cable in there correct and I had a little ring around

1:55:38the regional scrapyards and metal Merchants today to see what they’re paying for this you are getting exactly the same price collected so you don’t

1:55:45have to faf around getting it into your van and getting down to the yard and today’s price is is drum roll

1:55:51please £ 13860 so that’s your bin all emptied and

1:55:59ready to go again to fill whenever you’re ready whilst the rest of the team force over what to do with the money I

1:56:05wed by to Edge and got ready to fill our bin for the next collection if you want to sign up for this amazing service check the link in the description but

1:56:11for now that’s all from me well I think he done another

1:56:17brilliant S I think we’d bring him in cuz I think he can lie tell us who’s won the prize look I’ve left him all he he

1:56:23got his mic turned on he’s fapping around in the corner going to bring yourself in I will bring myself in yeah

1:56:29so it is time to um to get the prize out so the weight of the C was I believe 77

1:56:35kg but the monetary value of that was 13860 and the closest it’s him again

1:56:42it’s Alan Chan 130 13550 so well done to you Al we’ll send

1:56:47you your wo probes must have about 15 of your addresses in the form by now so don’t bother with that I’ll find you

1:56:54anyway oh bless him okay so yeah we see him at shows and we’ve met him we spent time with him and is a Serial winner

1:57:00that’s what we want regular viewers coming in again if you’re a regular viewer and you’ve been commenting there is a fantastic chance you get a shout

1:57:07out in the register and you may even appear in the end credits and now you’ve run out of Road okay young man so I’m aRoofers doing electrical work?

1:57:15nor upset somebody yeah I’m a roofer maybe a little bit of tarmacking the weekend as well throw a few white few

1:57:22white pebbles in there give it a bit of dressing yeah white gold bit upvc clean your gut as well I’m up there 100% yeah

1:57:29I can do all of that I’ll come and see Gtech training how long before you make me into an electrician how long as them

1:57:34roof is taking to get through oh electrician what kind of electrician well they’re going to fit solar panels there must be electricians roofers are

1:57:40already fitting solar panels and they have been doing for years and years and years so that’s what you’re digging what

1:57:46we’re trying to do is to make life easier for our electrician friends because you said earlier on quite

1:57:52rightly electricians don’t want to be up on the roof right that’s not their primary skill set what what who should

1:57:59be up on the roof is the roofers totally agree but there has to be an element of electrical work that they’re going to do

1:58:04now that might only extend to plugging a few cables together but remember that

1:58:10when the sun’s out the modules are live live right so they’re going to be live working so we’ve got to give them a bit

1:58:16of a comprehension about what’s going on and make sure they can do that very limited amount of plug andplay work in a

1:58:23safe as possible way and do they when when we did my one they they brought the

1:58:29cables around in a certain pattern they tried to sort of semi explain that while I was watching tiles drop off and having

1:58:35all kinds of customer moments is that something else you’d explain would you maybe even stretch to an mc4 connector

1:58:41AB yeah so what we’re trying to do um with with the roofing fraternity that we’re seeing is to make sure that they

1:58:47understand a bit about the system not electricians at all but they understand enough to know what’s going on with the

1:58:53system they know how the cable should be uh rooted and how the cable should be

1:58:59mounted um and also how that then gets through the roof into the Loft space or

1:59:04down the side of the building ready for the electrician then to make those all important final connections okay and is

1:59:11this looking to try and get an ECS card is there some sort of minimum requirement is there going to be something I need to get on site with or

1:59:17is this just to to skill people who are already skilled yes that’s a really really interesting question I think the

1:59:24industry hasn’t quite got to grips with the fact that at the moment there’s lots of roofers out there who who are doing

1:59:30electrical work on new build sites um yes it would be ideal if we could get

1:59:35them some kind of skills card because as soon as the the local Savvy site Foreman

1:59:41realizes that they’re going to go hang on a minute I’ve got a person here doing electrical work and they haven’t got a

1:59:47competency card for for doing that so yeah absolutely we we’re working towards that to try and get that but it’s

1:59:53realistically only talking about those very simple connections Up on the Roof trying to make sure they leave that safe

2:00:00for our electrician friends to go and do the final connections and I can see that only being a good thing I’m a bit big

2:00:05advocator of the roofs done by roofer okay I understand we can up skill ourselves in Reverse I don’t think we’ve

2:00:11been on any Roofing courses there’s no ECS card for electrician turned roofer

2:00:17so if we reverse the process round we’re quite happy we’re having a dible but when we’re in the electrical industry and we watch a roof for maybe making

2:00:24pushing some connectors together or rooting some cables we start screaming and roaring it’s just the reverse

2:00:29process I think it’s only good and it’s no no different to any other kind of domestic work where perhaps we might

2:00:36have taken too much of a Timber out of a particular joist run or or a stud wall

2:00:42uh and we should then be asking our carpentry friends to come and uh come and make that good shouldn’t we so uh

2:00:49we’re just trying to follow that path through uh a bit further to its natural progression but hey you know the

2:00:54electricians are really good at doing the electrical work um don’t want to be up on the roof most of the time if they

2:01:00do want to fit solar as well as a battery storage then let’s try and make sure that both halves of that team can

2:01:06work together coherently totally agree I think it’s a great idea so I mean I’ve played it in as a massive negative

2:01:12absolutely not no 100% I think the right people should be doing the right jobs well rofer doing an MC for what could

2:01:19possibly go wrong well we’ve seen plenty of electricians do mc4 connectors and things possibly go wrong I don’t think

2:01:25we said that I think we said pushing connectors together and rooting cables I don’t think we we said anything there

2:01:31about making cables off did we no no at all you so I just want to clarify that because you didn’t and I didn’t so okay

2:01:38and again that that brings up a nice one we did a lovely little short we haven’t done a full review on it yet you Ed some sort of talk wrench on the back of that

2:01:45mc4 connect what made you in any way side Gordon rout to start putting talk

2:01:51on it yeah following the manufacturers instructions what are what are the chances is that why we had to buy that because the manufactur instructors of

2:01:57mc4 connectors stated was it 3.2 or 3.5 I can’t remember 3.2 3.25 oh was it okay

2:02:04of talk on the back of there on the back not on the back of the connector so that wasn’t something you randomly did it was

2:02:09something obviously we started looking at mc4 connectors and then suddenly you’re in a world of of interesting

2:02:15places so obviously the regulation there got to be the same manufacturers or type

2:02:20testers type tested to 50521 Y which nobody does connected together allegedly

2:02:26allegedly okay no no I don’t think you can find aw my

2:02:33allegedly take it back went through the loop on on4 connectors and interesting stoutly do this little depth gauge so

2:02:40you can check that the crimp pin is latched into the connector housing as it should be makes a nice click yeah um and

2:02:47the interesting thing when when you take there depth gauge and start using it on other

2:02:52connectors on one SPC connect wouldn’t even go in the connector all right so

2:02:58you start think well they’re not really compatible are they so and um so I thought right so then we started speaking to stably and St oh we’ve just

2:03:05brought out this new tool kit a year ago okay and then I waited nine months and

2:03:10then finally managed to extract one out of someone it was yeah they’re not cheap let’s put it that way couple of air

2:03:16fries couple of air an air fry and a half I think or 10 air fries if you go to Costco in

2:03:22the com Costco I’m a m yeah mine’s pretty deep mine’s a good one good one

2:03:28well you could you could use it you can’t do mc4 connectors on it anyway so but the instructions yeah they’re very clear proper cable lens proper crimper

2:03:36um and then the uh click it in together check with the depth gauge and tighten it up with the torque calibrated backnut

2:03:43and as a manufacturer you’re always stating follow the manufacturer’s instructions we’ve just had our conversation there where I tried to give

2:03:48you a bit a bit of banter about our roofers and obviously you’ve taken a little bit of stick of using a torque

2:03:53setting on the back of an mc4 connector which links me nicely into the segment

2:03:59that we’re going to do from Joe Hammond oh oh yes which is where we get a chance to answer back to some of these comments

2:04:05and we’re going to leave it to Joe and he did it last time out it was hilarious so we’d like to go back in and we’d like

2:04:11to see what it is comments corner I could remember the first word let’s joinComments Corner

2:04:17Joe [Music]

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2:04:35coming in which not only raises debate but also raises a few eyebrows as well

2:04:40remember it’s these comments that keep us going so if you’ve got a question make sure you fire over to us and we’ll

2:04:46do what we can to get an answer to you it’s been another busy week for us at eix with the solar and storage event at

2:04:52the NEC Birmingham Gordon finding a rooftop location with the dynamic firework that is Griff Thomas from Gtech

2:04:59and Joe getting into a tight squeeze in some trunking but we start with a short we put out on Facebook and this was eix

2:05:04own Rick making off some micc or pyro cable to be terminated into

2:05:10a fireproof isolator well our International viewers hit this one up with Jeffrey G Holly saying what is this

2:05:16for we don’t go through this type of hell in the USA I can’t do an American accent but the childish British humor

2:05:23won the round with Dave M commenting to Mega The Apprentice at the other end well if we’re splitting hairs Dave

2:05:31it’s insulation resistance but still let’s not Mega anyone shall we Tony

2:05:37Elmore says wrong oh why is it wrong Tony

2:05:43why why ton tell tell us tell us we released our first AI instructional

2:05:49video with AI Joe taking the lead and you were quite cross at Fu manu5 LTR a

2:05:57bit disappointed this used AI to produce a video normally well-presented videos by actual humans and at M1 lad

2:06:0781 I’ve seen that guy advertise dubious doorbell cameras nothing but a scam

2:06:13shame eix did not use a real person to do the voice over Gordon on holiday is

2:06:19if he has he’s not invited anyone else at Abdul 6930 came in with I’m stalking

2:06:24Joe Robinson on eix electrical news weekly okay uh but the final comment

2:06:31from at cyprian B12 guys I personally think that you should advise us how to

2:06:36do the best not the law requires that said I worked personally as a pat tester

2:06:42for seven years and replaced more than 3,000 plugs what you worked as a pat tester for seven

2:06:49years seven you poor poor thing down at solar and storage we had Gordon do his

2:06:55best Paul Hogan when discussing the Swiss army knife of batteries and Gordon fresh back from his holidays did a

2:07:01sterling job to explain how the One megawatt battery works with at Billy Lions 1680 saying brilliantly explained

2:07:08as usual and at Colin Richardson nice more expensive than my house but one megawatt hour should be enough storage

2:07:15for at least one of my daughter’s showers and at Andrew Watson 3576 coming

2:07:20in with I bet Gary was draing over them thinking how many meals he can air fry with just one charge and yes Andrew we

2:07:29evidently didn’t hear the last of it finally we put a short out showcasing our new toy a py insulation kit which

2:07:36includes Cutters crimpers and torque ratchets perhaps though the editing was a little bit intense with at Pedro

2:07:443474 this video gives me a panic attack and at rebelo on claiming the editing

2:07:52style kills kittens well I can assure you no kittens that I’m aware of have been killed in

2:07:58the making of our videos that’s it this week from comments

2:08:04corner be sure to keep finding those comments and who knows you might even get yourself a mention but until next

2:08:10time it’s teraa [Music] [Applause]

2:08:16[Music] now [Music]

2:08:21it’s an absolute pleasure to have him as part of the team he brings something completely different we look forward to

2:08:27every video that he drops and he’s just dropped one recently on uh wbox EV charger isn’t he it is yeah it’s worth a

2:08:33look at yeah CU 100% brings up the dreaded looped Supply at the end of there the ending away but it’s

2:08:39definitely worth watching it so from electrical aspect as much as the comedy elements that Joe brings to all of his

2:08:45along with his facial expressions and his quick wit absolutely fantastic fantastic so thank you very much for Joe for bringing that one in today weren’t

2:08:50even expecting it was it it was a surprise oh yeah I’ve done one and he so he just launched that one in at us as well so that is brilliant so just to

2:08:58give people an update where we are before we do the register College connections obviously I’m out and about all in the month of November I’m going

2:09:04down to the the big South I’m going down to Devon to do a couple um next week and then after that I’m moving further north

2:09:11so I’ve got four College connections this week and we’d like to thank everyone that does support those College connection Road shows letting me get out

2:09:17to colleges and we’ve discussed it over dinner didn’t we how important it is to support the industry and I have asked

2:09:22any if he is on I’ve asked Keith whether he’d support us as being our solar and Battery installer supporter moving into

2:09:292024 so I slid that one is he still on Keith not that was every week now it’s

2:09:34who does jaw look like this time is that Tom Carriage before his diet

2:09:41right good I thought you grow more hair after you die so obviously we got one of those let’s let’s let’s go over and see

2:09:48if we got any winners over there so we must have a GT time winner that’s not going to get a prize but going to get the name shouted out next yeah but just

2:09:54before we get to that we’ll get a register okay so uh yeah thank you all for staying on this long it means a lot to me and the team let’s start so we’ve

2:10:01got sockets we’ve got sea Dempsey we’ve got Billy toy we’ got Nick Eren and hopefully I won’t get stitched up this

2:10:06week as we have for the last two times that we’ve done it Chris horn we got humble 93 we got olle got Ross sanss we

2:10:12got Troy Bo we got Ian McDonald’s we got early years learning is fun smart Spar UK back toour guy red snake

2:10:18D Cris rtcm Matt Marine Eng Paul rard Richard calan blue electrics Gavin gu

2:10:25Kevin Osborne Neil Bridgman Dan Sparky in training Richard Bushnell James Muller Kevin graville Chris wi Sparky

2:10:32Mark Von Kano Angel simeonov impendulo Services short circuit Michael Williams

2:10:39Joel Eagan and Roger Brookfield and well here we’ll also do the GT time so Le’s

2:10:45time was 5 minutes 38 the closest to that was smart spark UK who I just mentioned in the register there at 5

2:10:51minutes 24 so go to the link in the description fill out the form and get involved to and we’ll send you prize

2:10:57Well we won’t but thank you very much you got a nice shout out anyhow so yeah Mr Chan’s got more chance of bumping into him giving him his prize so that

2:11:03will be brilliant but thank you ever so much it’s been an epic because we’ve had some epic people on the show this

2:11:08evening so we’ like to thank Griff returning again for the second time I’m sure you’re going to be back again by

2:11:13popular demand I do hope so but Gary I’ve got to tell you I’ve got little present for you oh

2:11:20no oh no cuz I know how much you you desperately need another battery where

2:11:26about is I think we just pop it behind the scat here doubt there one here we go

2:11:31so oh thank you very much brilliant yeah yeah brilliant it’s h the second B just what I was uh

2:11:39looking for so a few few more appearances on the show I’ll bring a battery with me every time and you’ll be

2:11:45able to sit at home soldering those up to your heart contend okay all right and we’ve got two people

2:11:50from sunn it’s a bit like having two batteries but when you’ve only got one battery it’s not like the two people

2:11:56from sunsin but I’d like a second one so I could call my batteries maybe Lee and I can call them J I go Jimmy I’ll call

2:12:04Lee and Jimmy so when I’m in there I’ll can having a Jimmy Lee I love it on the cuff that one was

2:12:10so if I get me batteries I’ll put a little sticker on him and we’ll name him after you Gary would that be

2:12:16ip65 rated I and in our house we haven’t got to worry where we’re tinkling at our age yourself I know you probably get

2:12:22there a little bit late you’re not as Nimble as around the hands in the fly area I’d imagine there has been one or

2:12:28two times when you’re standing in your uh yeah yeah you a damp patch in the roof yeah don’t tell me that I’ll check

2:12:35every time it rains heavily or keeps me awake at the best of times we’ve had a great time today and it’s only thanks to

2:12:41the great people that support us that allows us to come live every two weeks both on Facebook which we had a huge

2:12:47response tonight on Face Facebook as well as on YouTube we’ve been reading most of the comments from YouTube we’d like to thank the great people at the

2:12:52SEO group that bring us great Brands like the BG syn EV as well as laso

2:12:57lighting we’d like to thank the wonderful people that were on last time out from luden paloli when we had uh

2:13:03geovani okay as they now called Giovani and the team were on last time out so we’ like to thank them from luden palaz

2:13:09onlyi for supporting us and the award winning PV Ultra which you’re sitting on this evening as homage to the great

2:13:15people down at Doncaster cables let’s buy let’s buy the best is what I would

2:13:20suggest on there Gordon any final thoughts there’s loads of stuff people got in there some late chats coming in

2:13:26on metering and CT clamps which I think we have to do some stuff on anyway because we get asked that question all the time and it seems yeah there’s a

2:13:33lots of there’s Lads to go at actually yeah it’s been fantastic comments tonight yeah we we appreciate everyone

2:13:39who stays on there’s been a lot of football on tonight we know as well obviously did Liverpool play this evening sir you were playing this even

2:13:45do we know the results how did Liverpool get on this evening I think Liverpool won two one that’s good enough for me

2:13:50we’ll stick with that even if it’s not true we’ll at least be happy to at the end of it so thank you ever so much for people that have given up their time on

2:13:55Facebook and on YouTube to to listen to us hopefully you got something out of it I suggest I have and I thank everybody

2:14:01around here for passing their information on and hopefully this Contracting electri you have as well if you’re watching it on catchup and you

2:14:06weren’t watching it live still put the comments in it will help Drive future live streams but I think now it’s time

2:14:11to say good night good night good night good night good night night and let’s hit the credits see if you’re in themThanks for watching – Roll the credits

2:14:18[Music]

2:14:36I keep youy baby can’t you

2:14:43see it’s going to be all right it’s going to be all right

2:14:50[Music]

2:15:08I keep you company baby can’t you

2:15:15see sty all it’s going to be all [Music]

2:15:27right

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